Atri class 15 (Political charts)

Guruji: No. Hospitalisation will be seen from Lagna. Because Hospitalisation will be of Body. So, we will check it from Lagna why will we see it from Ārūḍha Lagna?

Student: But, Jupiter also has dṛṣṭi on Rāhu. So, in Śani daśā, there will be two different types of results. One will be good result because of Guru’s dṛṣṭi. One will be bad because of Rāhu’s dṛṣṭi. All depends upon Antardaśā. Antardaśā which will favor guru, he will rise. And in the antardaśā which favors Rāhu, he will fall. It is so clear. here, the fight is between Guru and Rāhu.

Student: Guru is looking at Rāhu.

Guruji: But Rāhu is also looking at Guru. This was the greatest ability of Pramod Mahajan. While staying in BJP, he could make friends in Congress. He had friends on every political party. This is because of Jupiter-Rāhu mutual aspect. There are some people who draw the lines, “no, we will stay away from them”. There are some people who do not, they mix with everybody.

Student: How do we see the Gun-Shot?

Guruji: Gunshots? Maṅgala!

Student: 3rd from AL?

Guruji: Yes, 3rd from AL. Which part of the body did he hit? Head or the body?

Student: Abdomen

Guruji: Tell me, why did he hit his abdomen?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: 6th house will always a graha. Tell me something else.

Student: Sūrya is debilitated.

Guruji: Sūrya is debilitated.

Student: Sūrya and Ketu

Guruji: Sūrya and Ketu is there. The liver has got damaged very badly.

Student: The bullet did hit his liver.

Guruji: That is 5th house. And see, in gocara, Sūrya is transiting over Rāhu. Right? So, this position of Sūrya being debilitated in 5th house, is very bad. It is proved now.

Student: is it just because 5th house is damaged because of debilitated planet? Or because the Sun is in 5th house?

Guruji: the Sun debilitated in 5th house.

Student: so, Sun will indicate liver?

Guruji: Naturally, 5th house is the Liver and all that. Sūrya is nīca, and dṛṣṭi of Śani is there on Sūrya. Rāhu’s dṛṣṭi is also coming on Sūrya. Some curse from father is forming. See carefully. Right? Curse of father is there. It is so clear. So, Sūrya will not do any good in this Horoscope.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: You see his Śani Daśā and Sūrya Antardaśā came in 2000 June, it was from june2000 to 2001. This was the time, that, although BJP was in power, if you remember, he had serious problems. he had very serious problems, very serious problems.

Students: There is pāpa-kartarī of saturn and sun.

Guruji: Naturally, so, pāpakartarī has come upon the Ārūḍha Lagna. You have caught the right thing. There has been a massive hit on his image. This was the time when people said that “he has made so much black money”. Because of which he let go of his ministerial-position in the Cabinet. 5th house is power, position, authority. Sūrya is nīca in 5th house, 5th house is about power, position, authority. Śani daśā and Sūrya antardaśā, Ārūḍha has got damaged. Curse of father has worked.

“when curse of father works, first sign is that your elders start removing you from their life, they start ignoring you”.

That happened, Vajpayee Ji and Advani Ji did not like him. So, this carried on till Sūrya Antardaśā. After that what about Chandra antarasha. Chandra is supporting Guru or is it supporting Rāhu? See, in Chandra antardaśā is till dec2002.

Gurvi Ji: Guru is in kendra to Chandra.

Guruji: So, It is supposed to favor Guru. So, to a large extent, his image will become okay.

Student: Weak Moon

Guruji: Yes, it is a very weak Moon of Kṛṣṇa Pakṣa. There is Caturdaśī Doṣa in this Kuṇḍalī. This is Kuṇḍalī having Curse of Śiva. Sūrya debilitated in 5th. Caturdaśī Doṣa. Clearly indicates, that father’s curse from last life is on him, and Curse of Śivajī is on him. She should have propitiated Śivajī, and Sūrya and Chandra all could have been pacified just by the blessing of Śiva. But because of the Kṛṣṇa Pakṣa Chandra, he will not be able to sustain this Rājayoga because 5th Lord Śukra is nīca is yuti with this Chandra. So, Chandra will support his name and fame because Chandra is in Ārūḍha. But because the 5th Lord Śukra is nīca and yuti with this Chandra, he will lose power. That’s why this is happening. You see, when Maṅgala has come, Maṅgala is not helping him. And on top of that, Rāhu is there. I told him:

Rāhu is most horrible, and his antardaśā will be most dangerous. Only way out is Mṛtyuñjaya.

You should do it, when you know that you are running such a period. He is running now, Saturn Daśā, Rāhu Antardaśā. You can see the gocara. Where is his Mṛtyu Pada? Gurvi Ji: Pisces

Guruji: Mṛtyu Pada is in Mīna. Rāhu’s gocara is in Mīna, on the Mṛtyu Pada. And Śani’s gocara is in 5th from Mṛtyu Pada. It’s clearly fitting. What are the daśā lord and the Lord of antardaśā saying? They are saying that “we are transiting in the trikoṇa from your Mṛtyu Pada”. Check the gocara of the Lord of daśā and the Lord of the antardaśā. it is confirming.

Gurvi Ji: bad

Guruji: Very Bad. Extremely Bad. Okay. When is the dangerous days? A man cannot die on any day. He can die on some selected days. Those days, will be: take the 5th Lord, and take the graha that are in yog with the Lord of the 5th. If there are no graha in yog with the Lord of 5th, take them. Among them, the one which is the most powerful to kill means who is the most Malefic to kill, that planet will give the tithi of death.

Student: His varsh (yearly) Lagna was also the Rāśi of 8th house.

Guruji: Right, it’s Makara. Every way, this is a bad year for him. You see, tithi is dashmi today, dashmi is till 3pm. After dashmi, Ekādaśī will come. Ekādaśī will also not help him. Maṅgala, (Lord of Ekādaśī tithi) will also not help. Let us see if he crosses Daśamī. Daśamī is of Chandra, it’s very tough that he survives this tithi. Māraka yoga of Chandra is forming, see, tithi is also dashmi, Kṛṣṇa Pakṣa Caturdaśī denotes, curse of Śiva. curse of Śiva is working. People who are great Śiva worshippers, when they will read the news about him, or when they see what is happening to him, they will feel it. Because what is happening to him, it is Curse of Śivajī that is working. You will feel like vomiting. Hey you (a student), do you understand now why did you feel like vomiting? “Don’t know why but I am feeling like Vomiting”. That’s your devotion to Śiva. If you have devotion to Śiva, and you see such curse of Śiva activat ing, you just watch how you feel. Because, the more you worship Śivajī, your ātma becomes one with the lord. So, when you see him in action, you feel. You have to become sensitive to all this. A little sensitivity is needed, a little. dhyāna etc, should be done. Please do dhyāna etc for your isht.

Student: So, we take 5th Lord and..

Guruji: 5th Lord, then see the planets conjoining 5th Lord, and if no planet is conjoining 5th Lord, then see the planets aspecting the 5th Lord. See Rāśi dṛṣṭi and not the graha dṛṣṭi.

Student: So, here it is Mercury and Venus.

Guruji: Mercury and Venus. You can take Moon, Mercury and Venus. Guru is also having aspect on Moon. Right? Among them, who is the worst? Kṛṣṇa Caturdaśī Chandra. Śiva-shaapit Chandra (a Chandra who is cursed by Śiva). What is worse than this. See, for the Moon, Kṛṣṇa Caturdaśī and Amāvasyā, two dosh are most dreadful in Chandra. Pratipadā is not that bad. Chandra does tapasya on Pratipadā. That’s why Pratipadā is not bad. But Pratipadā is neither good. Chandra māsa really started on dwitiya, and does not start on Pratipadā. The real Chandra, it starts from dwitiya, the muslims still follow it. They see dwitiya and then from there they follow Moon.

Student: So, if he survives the Daśamī,…

Guruji: The likelihood of his survival is there.

Gurvi Ji: And then Mars is not looking at Moon. Then Dvādaśī will come, so, with Mercury, it will be better? Guruji: How can you say that? Mercury is also with Chandra.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Today’s Moon is in Makara. Today is Daśamī till 3pm. You think they will let me sit idle? People came to me from Bombay, and they couldn’t even sleep. What Pūjās are going there, you can’t imagine.

Student: People take astrological advice when time is bad, when sorrow and pain comes.

Guruji: Actually there problem is that only. It is very important to have a shubh graha in Lagna, and there should not be any primary curse in your horoscope. If there is a primary curse in your horoscope, then you should continuously get it pacified through Pūjā and all. See, the example is in front of you. What do you think he did not worship Śiva in his life? Definitely he would have. What do you think, he did not do Rudra abhishek in his entire life? Definitely he would had done it. Still, the curse worked.

Do not take it for granted that just because you have got a curse, one single Pūjā can pacify it. For that, you have to do the pacification throughout life. That is my point. Whole Life. Keep doing. Keep doing. The longer you keep doing it, the more the curse will get pacified. You are thinking that “I had done Tapasya”. But, do you know the amount of Sin that had been committed by you? If I do not the amount of Sins that had been committed by me, then how can we say that “my tapasya is enough?”. There is no comparison, you have to do it throughout life.

Student: Ātmakāraka is also important.

Guruji: It is Mercury. That is why he was able to rise. He has very powerful Rajyogas, very very powerful Rajyogas. Budha and Chandra yoga is something very very powerful.

Gurvi Ji: After the start of Ekādaśī Mars won’t help, then Dvādaśī, Budha wont help. Then there is trayodashi, Jupiter won’t help. Then Caturdaśī is again..

Guruji: (Caturdaśī is) rules by nīca Śukra.

Student: It’s very tough for him to survive.

Guruji: It’s very important that somehow he survives and crosses Amāvasyā. Caturdaśī, if Caturdaśī crosses, and he survives beyond Caturdaśī, then assume that he will survive and live.

Gurvi Ji: Amāvasyā is also bad

Guruji: No. How will Amāvasyā kill? Amāvasyā cannot kill. Rāhu is not aspecting. Caturdaśī should cross. We see it like this. Do you get it how we check? We check tithi, is a simple traditional way, and through this method.

Student: Venus is nīca, so there is no gain to him if he comes back to politics, defamation is there.

Guruji: Have you seen the āyu? How do you check the āyu? Lagneśa? Strong. Ashtamesh (8th Lord)? Weak. Karmesh (10 Lord)? Strong. So, two are strong while one is weak: Madhyama Longevity. Lagna is dwisvabhav.

Student: why is ashtamesh weak?

Guruji: Because Śani is in 12th from Ārūḍha Lagna.

Student: Okay.

Guruji: Śani as it is in Leo, is bad. 3rd house, and in leo, it is bad. Śani is weak.

Student: Lagna Lord is very well placed.

Guruji: Yes, very well placed. So, two are giving madhya āyu. You can also see the Lagna and hora Lagna, they are indicat ing alpayu.

Scribe’s notes:

Āyu means longevity

Alpāyu = alp + āyu = less than half, i.e., approximately 25%

Madhyama or madhya āyu = approx. 50%, half longevity

Guruji: So, this is alpayu. Okay. Two Mahāpuruṣa Yoga are there. Bṛhaspati is very powerful. Lagneśa is also very powerful. If Bṛhaspati and Lagneśa are very powerful, and they put dṛṣṭi or go yoga with Lagna, then they increase the kaksha (bracket) of āyu. One condition is also that Śani should not stop these two from doing so. Bṛhaspati and Lagneśa, both should be very powerful. And they are really powerful here. So, bracket of longevity have increased. So, alpayu has got increased to madhya āyu.

Guruji: Apply the Śūla daśā. We will start from saptam (7th). Alpāyu is till Mīna, so, leave it. And madhya āyu is from Meṣa to Karka. Meṣa has come in 45. Vṛṣabha comes at 54. Mithuna comes at 63. What do you will happen in Mithuna’s daśā?

Gurvi Ji: Why is that daśā is bad.

Guruji: I am asking. When did I say that it is Bad? In hindi, I said, what do you think will happen. I asked, what do you think.

Student: Mithuna is not bad.

Guruji: So, Mithuna is not bad?

Student: What do you mean by kaksh-vriddhi?

Guruji: kakṣa-vṛddhi means increase in the compartment.

Student: Why did that happen?

Guruji: Because Lagna Lord and Jupiter are both strong and aspecting Lagna. The power to increase the longevity, is in the hands of Śiva and only Śiva. The two factors by which this is shown, is one is guru, and one is Lagna Lord. That’s all. Only these two can cause kaksh-vriddhi. Who other than Śiva, can increase longevity? So, if guru looks at the Lagna. Kaksh means the compartment. The compartment was low-life. It increased to middle-life. Because of these two factors, You look at my own horoscope, you will see it. Jupiter has increased my age-compartment. It means that the whole thing is increasing. That is Rāśi. kakṣa-vṛddhi; kaksh-hraasa; Rāśi-vriddhi; Rāśi-hraasa. kakṣa-vṛddhi, if it is there and if it gets blocked by Śani, then only the Rāśi-vriddhi will happen. Then, it won’t increase 36 years, it will increase only 9 years. Only Rāśi is increasing. If kaksh-hraasa (decrease in age-compartment); and if guru has blocked it, then only the Rāśi-hraasa will happen. So, Śani and guru have this story of death and life.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yes, so, Mithuna daśā is running right now. Please tell, how will be the Mithuna daśā for him? First, which is the Rudra in the horoscope?

Gurvi Ji: i don’t get it, if there is kaksh-vriddhi, then why the Śūla-daśā be bad?

Guruji: We have not yet arrived at Mithuna-daśā being bad. Who else said, it is bad? I am not saying it is bad.

Student: (not clear)

Gurvi Ji: (not Clear)

Student: Yes, Śūla.

Guruji: Which are the two, please find out the rudras in the horoscope. If it is bad or good, how will you find it in the Śūla? You will do it by studying Rudra, right? Without Rudra, how can you whether it is good or bad? First, who are the two rudras? Who is the 2nd Lord? Chandra. Who is the 8th Lord? Śani. Among the two, which one can kill first?

Student: Śani

Guruji: Chandra is more likely to do it. Because this Chandra is a shaapit-Chandra. Because it is the Chandra of krishna Caturdaśī. So, prāṇī Rudra is Chandra. And, aprāṇī Rudra, is Śani. Prāṇī Rudra Chandra is having dṛṣṭi on which Rāśi?

Student: Lagna.

Guruji: It is having dṛṣṭi on Lagna. Then why do you say that Mithuna daśā cannot kill? Mithuna daśā can kill. The only protection coming to him during Mithuna daśā is that on guru. That is Śiva. Nobody can save him except Śiva. Now the question is, Chandra and Guru. Chandra says that he has to die now. Guru says “maybe, let him live for some more time”. Chandra, who will support Chandra. And who are the one that will support Guru? Budha is supporting Guru. And, Śukra is supporting Chandra. Today, who is most powerful? Naturally.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: In Aquarius, Chandra is with Śukra.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: 30-40. His Śukra is very bad. Ātmakāraka…. See, in any horoscope, when Śukra is damaged, his pancreas goes. Diabetes will happen for sure. Everything in life has a counter-control. Sugar is the thing of Jupiter. Who can control sugar? Śukra can. So, if Śukra is weak, sugar will go out of control. Everything in Jyotiṣa has to be in check and balance. You see, Budha for example, in western astrology, they say that Budha rules nerves, and if Budha is weak, then nerves are spoiled. This is said in western astrology. Our Vedic Jyotiṣa says that Nerves are ruled by Maṅgala, if Maṅgala is very powerful, then nerves are very strong. Who kills Maṅgala? Budha kills Maṅgala. So, if Budha is bad, it will not kill it’s own thing, it will kill the thing of his enemy. So, Budha will hit nerves. That’s the reason Budha hit’s nerves. Śani rules muscles. Maṅgala kills Śani. That’s why Maṅgala can destroy muscles. Thats the same way, the diabetes that you are saying, his Śukra is really really bad. Until, Daśamī passes over, it is very difficult to save him. What is the Lagna right now? When will Kanyā Lagna come? Siṃha-Kanyā? You can study the horoscope of pramod mahajan in more detail. Very nice horoscope to study. Many a times when you see a horoscope, nothing seems to be bad. But once you start to follow it step by step, check Rudra, etc etc.. the picture will become more clear. Okay. Now, this horoscope is of Advani Ji.

Student: we can conclude that Pramod Mahajan is not going to survive.

Guruji: It doesn’t seem to be good for him.

Student: Pratyantardaśā is that of a nīca planet.

Guruji: Look at it from anywhere, it’s not looking good for him.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Some doctors have come from Indian Army, only that can help, otherwise, it’s tough to save him.

Student: they are trying to do the transplant. (rest of it is not clear till 34:00)

Guruji: The country in which Ganza has been made legal, people will have out-of-body experience (everybody legal). This is absurd, if the ātma leaves the body, person is going to die. Mind is roaming here and there. Mind can go anywhere. If ātma leaves the heart. at that moment, the heart will stop. The heart cannot beat for a second if the ātma leaves it.

Student: technically the out-of-body experience is not ātma in the body,

Guruji: In this Jyotiṣa class, we have to be very specific about what we are talking. When you used the word, ātma, then and there I caught you. You have to be technically correct in this class. You can talk about what you want to but you have to be technically correct in this class. Because you are jyotiṣī, people will believe you, so, you cannot afford to be technically incorrect. You have to be careful. You saud, ātma went from there to there, how can ātma go like this? If somebody’s ātma can leave one body into another body, that person is not less of a yogi than Ādi Śaṅkarācārya. Ādi Śaṅkara left his body and went into the body of a parrot. That ātma is not a normal ātma. That is Śiva himself.

Gurvi Ji: but most people who do astral travelling….

Guruji: I will explain this same thing to you. We talked of bhāva Lagna earlier. And, Bhāva Lagna has to do with what we call the Sūkṣma Śarīra. There is differentce between the bhāva Lagna and the Lagna. Bhāva Lagna is the sukshma shareera, through which the Manas is working through the body. My hand is here, and my Manas knows that my hand is here. I am thinking that my hand will go there and pick up the water bottle, and bring it to me. In my mind, I can visualise getting up, walking, picking up the bottle of water and coming back. I have thought it in my Manas, and I have visualised, and that which i am seeing through my Manas, is a bhavna (emotion). Bhāvanā works through bhāva Lagna. If I am having an emotion that I am a doctor. You see how kids play Doctor-Doctor? They become doctor while playing that game. This bhavna is the projection of the self. It is one of the “sva”. Sva (self) is of many types. Ātma is the real self. All the other selves are unreal. But there are degrees of unreality. For example, this physical body, is the most unreal self. The most unreal self is the physical body. Then you go to bhāva Lagna, sūkṣma śarīra. So, what is going? The sūkṣma śarīra is going. Why do you remember it? Because you Manas is attached with your sūkṣma śarīra, and goes with it. So, are we clear about sūkṣma śarīra? And, that is Bhāva Lagna.

Gurvi Ji: most people say that they do astral travelling.

Guruji: Astral travelling is very difficult. Very very difficult. There are all stories that they are telling. That is very difficult. If a person says that they are doing astral travelling. Say, “fine, I will wait outside your room, I will lock it, you travel astrally, and go to this monastry and ask the names of the gurus and come. See how it is kept on the floor and come. Go to my room right now, and tell me what is there in my room. If someone can travel astrally, then he can also do this. If I can travel astrally, I will tell you to lock the doors and I will sit and and I will travel astrally inside the room and I will tell you exactly how things are kept. There is a Jew person who can do it. People are doing it. The name is Uri Geller. he is capable of it. He is a jew.”

Gurvi Ji: he can bend spoons

Guruji: Not “a” spoon, but many spoons. He would look at the spoon and bend it (through his psychic abilities). Study his horoscope, next class, we will study his horoscope. And we will study, what are the siddhis and how the siddhis can be attained.

Student: What is that thing when people go into their past life, and can look into their past life

Guruji: That is true, they make you sleep, so, through an external support, they are using you to go back to another time-frame. You are going back to your D60 chart. Manas lives in five levels. It goes to the d60 level, and collects all the information from there and comes back. It is going no where, it is there where it originally is. Ātma is also here only. The heart is beat ing. If the heart is beat ing, it means that the ātma is there. Why does the heart beat? Who causes the heart to beat? Who is playing the Ḍamaru? Student: Śiva.

Guruji: Śiva is playing the Ḍamaru. Ātma is Śiva. Śivo’ham. You ātma is Śiva. That is the meaning of Śivo’ham. Till Śiva keeps playing the Ḍamaru, the heart will keep beat ing. The moment he stops playing the Ḍamaru, your story will end. Chapter over. Clear? In the next class, we will also discuss about Śivajī. What is there in his hands, what is the meaning of that, what is ātma, what are the powers of the ātma, what is ātma gyan. What are the siddhis, how siddhis are attained, ashta-siddhi, why are there ashta-siddhi, why is Śiva called the giver of Aṣṭa-siddhi, who gives the siddhi, who helps you to attain the siddhi? Gaṇeśa. How Gaṇeśa helps you to attain siddhis? What is the link between them? We will understand. Okay, kuṇḍalī of Advani Ji, I think most of you know this kuṇḍalī. 8 november 1927. There is no controversy in his kuṇḍalī, because Advani Ji does not believe in giving multiple kundlis. One of the few people I have seen in this country who has only one kuṇḍalī and has no nonsense about it. He and I think Joshi Ji also. Multiple Kundlis float ing around! They don’t do all this. He does not believe in that.

Student: What about the time?

Guruji: Time is 9:13, this is one of the times, 9:13 seems to be

Student: (something is being said here by Students, about his time to be 9:27)

Guruji: 9:37?

Student: 9:27

Guruji: 9:27. That is one correction basically, he does not remember.

Student: he doesn’t remember?

Guruji: He does not remember. So, that is the problem. So, we have to correct. We will correct. He was born in a place called Amani in Pakistan. He has Vṛścika Lagna. And see, there are Śani and Ketu in his Lagna. Guru is vakri in pancham. Chandra is in sixth house from Lagna. Rāhu is in 7th. Śukra is in 11th house from Janma Lagna, in the Ārūḍha Lagna. (that means the Ārūḍha Lagna is in 11th house). See, Ārūḍha Lagna is in Kanyā with nīca Śukra (nīca = debilitated). Remember Pramod Mahajan horoscope? Maṅgala is in Tulā with Sūrya and Budha. Pramod Mahajan also has Sūrya in Tulā. His Navāṃśa can be corrected and we will try to correct it today. With this time, he had Dhanuṣ Navāṃśa Lagna. 3rd house has Maṅgala and Śukra.

Ketu is in 4th house. Sūrya is in pancham (5th) and is ucca (exalted). Sūrya is in Meṣa Navāṃśa. There is night and day differentce between his Sūrya and the Sūrya in the chart of Pramod Mahajan. Budha is in Mithuna. Chandra is also ucca. Chandra is also in Vṛṣabha Navāṃśa. Guru is also in ucca Navāṃśa, it’s Karka Navāṃśa. Śani is vargottama in Vṛścika. Next year november, he will turn 80. This is an important notice. So, please note. Means after 2 more years, he will turn 82, which is very important for Śani. Just note. We will go into these peculiar years later. Tell me his Ārūḍha and tell me about his daśā. He is running Bṛhaspati Daśā, or is that daśā ending? His Bṛhaspati’s daśā is till 2008. If there are two paap graha in the Lagna, what do you say about it. Do you want to say anything about Lagna? Is he a bad man? Or does he have a bad personality? What do you want to say about the Lagna? See, I asked about his personality, and I want an answer about his personality. Atra Ketuḥ Śubhaḥ: means that Ketu is considered good in some thing. Ketu is in his own Rāśi, Lagneśa is in Lagna. How can it be bad? You have to be very careful with Ketu. And in many ways, Ketu is a benefic after Jupiter. In spiritual matters…

Do you know the order of beneficence in spirituality? The most benefic is Jupiter. Then, Ketu. Then Śukra. Then, Chandra. Then, Budha. Then, Sūrya. Then, Śani. Then, Maṅgala. Then, Rāhu. This is spirituality. This is for ātma. The worst planet for ātma is Rāhu. The best for ātma is Guru. Every ātma has only one mantra. Oṃ Tat Sat. That is Guru. Be it any religion, if it does not teach this, then that religion cannot sustain. Then, even if that religion teaches anything, but if it doesn’t teach “Oṃ Tat Sat”, then all teachings are waste. Main thing is this. Guru requires only one thing: “is he/she truthful or not”. All religions must speak to speak the truth. If they teach, they will survive. If they do not teach this, they will be destroyed. All of them. Everything else than this, is a game of control and politics. It is a control game. Because he had four wives, so, four wives are okay. Rāma had one wife, so according to Hindus, one wife is okay. Go to south, they say, “we don’t believe in Rāma”. Okay? So, depends. Depends on what is right and what is wrong.

Students: how many wives did Śrī Kṛṣṇa had?

Guruji: Two. He had two wives. Rukmini and Satyabhama. Don’t say such things about our dear Jagannātha (and guruji laughs while saying so). He married the others to give them legal sanctity so that they will not be thrown out of Indian Society. In those days, widows had to go and live separately. When he freed them from prison, he married them only for one reason because he wanted them not to be excluded out of society, he wanted them to live happily in society. Because Kṛṣṇa married them and they were widows, that is why widow-remarriage is allowed. And it is dharmic. In this Kali Yuga, what is dharma, and what is not dharma, you should know that only from the life of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. Whatever he has done, you calmly try to understand, and you will realise that that thing is the correct for this. And it will happen, in Kali Yuga, only that will be considered as Dharma.

Student: he had 16 wives,

Guruji: In Vṛndāvana, they enjoy this Līlā of Prabhu. The scenario in Vṛndāvana is different. They take the Līlā of Śrī Kṛṣṇa to another level. There, even Moha toward Bhagavān is considered a marriage. That way, there is no limit. Is there any limit to wives of bhagvan? If you consider a woman having Moha towards Kṛṣṇa as a wife, then there is no limit to the wives of Śrī Kṛṣṇa. And according to one.. this thing.. even Gopis were his spouses, even the Gopas were his spouses.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: It is similar in Dvārakā, Gujarat. In Jagannātha Puri, Ādi Śaṅkarācārya gave us the responsibility to hold the Ṛgveda. Whole situation is different in Puri. Kids even today go to Pāṭhaśālā and study the Ṛgveda. Even today it goes on. But very unfortunately, many negative things have crept in over there. Drugs gave come. Girls have come on the outskirts. Sad! He has his ways. But even people believe in him. People don’t understand the rules, but even today they follow it blindly. Even today, 300 food items are made for Jagannātha, but nobody knows the reason. And, from where the food is resourced, only Bhagavān knows. From where does so much food comes. Anyway, change his Navāṃśa please. Do you really think Sūrya will stay in his Navāṃśa? Advani ji is known to be a great thinker. Which planet gives great thinking?

Student: Rāhu

Guruji: Right. And?

Student: Moon

Guruji: No.

Student: Sun

Guruji: No.

Student: Rāhu gives great thinking? Guruji: Yes, Rāhu makes great thinker.

Student: unconventional?

Guruji: No, No. It is not about convention. Boundaries are broken by Rāhu and Ketu. They break boundaries because they sit on the boundaries. It’s of two types. Rāhu will break the boundary by giving materialistic thinking. Albert Einstein had Rāhu in trines. Otherwise he couldn’t have broken the boundary. Any great thinker,… Rāhu is not negative in Navāṃśa-trines, please stop thinking like that. Be it any graha, whoever sit’s in trines to Navāṃśa Lagna, his positive qualities will be within you. Don’t consider that planet as negative. If Rāhu is in trines to Navāṃśa Lagna, then that native has the capacity to think beyond normal things. He will get such ideas which are beyond the boundaries, which are secretive, about which the world doesn’t yet knows. Such people are the great researchers. They come up with new ideas, new thoughts. Advani Ji’s new idea was what, recently?

Student: Jinnah is Secular

Guruji: Jinnah is Secular. See; to say such a thing, you need a lot of courage, and your mind is going out of boundary. No person in the world would have thought that. In that moment, I thought, the kuṇḍalī I am seeing is wrong, this Navāṃśa needs correction.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: That can be Makara Navāṃśa, or that can also be Vṛṣabha.

Guruji: It cannot be Kanyā Navāṃśa Lagna. See, nobody doubts his Rāśi Lagna being Vṛścika. Nobody is doubting that he is Vṛścika Lagna. Question is that is he a Makara Navāṃśa Lagna or is he a Vṛṣabha Navāṃśa Lagna? Which one will you accept? Let’s take Vṛṣabha Navāṃśa Lagna. Chandra will be in Lagna? Navāṃśa Lagna will have most influence from Chandra? If the person has Chandra in Navāṃśa Lagna, then the person sings very well. Does Advani Ji sing? I have never heard him sing. I have heard that he has a very strict personality.

Student: he is sift in speech

Guruji: See, that is the trait of a politician. That is a very different thing. But, basically, he is a very strong man. He is not a Vṛṣabha-Chandra. Will you call him a Vṛṣabha-Chandra? Or will you call him Makara? Student: (not clear), If you see his wife, and if we take Makara Navāṃśa, then Jupiter should be in 7th house

Guruji: Correct, I also thought that.

Student: I also.

Guruji: She is really Jupiter. There is no doubt on that. She is really Jupiter. Really Jupiter. So, please the Navāṃśa here to Makara in Navāṃśa Lagna. If we make the Makara Lagna, then 2nd house has yog of Śukra and Maṅgala. That’s why we did not accept the Makara Lagna. I’ll be very frank. We did not accept the Makara Lagna, because I thought Maṅgala and Śukra cannot be in 2nd house.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: If Maṅgala and Śukra are together in 2nd house, then it has a totally different meaning.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yes, it can be. Time can also be 9:30.

Guruji: What? 9:14? Yes, it can be. Right now it is 9:13, you can change it to 9:14 also. The time is round about 9 to 10. You have to find out appropriate time.

Gurvi Ji: What does it mean if Mars and Venus are in 2nd house?

Guruji: You tell me what happens. If Maṅgala and Śukra are in Navāṃśa Lagna’s 2nd house, or if they aspect the 2nd house, then what happens?

Student: Extra Affair

Guruji: Correct.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: See; in Jyotiṣa, we get an idea, but being biased.. you see; the problem is that we don’t know this person personally, We only read about such people in news paper or we watch in television, or we hear about them a little bit. That “little bit” thing is not sufficient to know what is the horoscope. And, these people will never tell us also. What will you do? So, only alternative left is Makara Navāṃśa. If the native takes birth in Makara Navāṃśa Lagna, then, Bṛhaspati is exalted in 7th from Navāṃśa Lagna, gives fantastic wife. His wife will be swayam tara, she is a form of Tārā Devī herself. And, it is a fact, she is that. Okay? Maṅgala and Śukra are in yog in 2nd house, and Sūrya is exalted in 4th house from Navāṃśa Lagna. If Sūrya is exalted in 4th house, then the person goes and lives in a Royal House. Royal house means that he can become a governer, or he can become a president of India. Or he can become the prime minister. Sūrya gives Rājayoga in 4th house. It’s a Rājayoga combination. Chandra in 5th house, make the native very popular. Very loved. And his philosophy, will be that of Kṛṣṇa. The graha sitting in 5th house in Navāṃśa, indicates your personal philosophy, whose philosophy do you follow, who do you follow in the matters of Personal Philosophy.

Student: what if there are more than one graha in 5th from Navāṃśa Lagna?

Guruji: Confusion. See; if there are many graha there, then there will be that much Gyan but confusion will also be there about “who do I follow”.

This is right. That is also right. Such confusions. That is bound to be there. Best situation is to have one planet. And ideally that one planet should be a sattvik guna planet. If you are following someone, because it is the Navāṃśa. In Navāṃśa, whichever graha sit’s in 5th house, is a very important planet. His philosophy will be your philosiphy. If Sūrya is in 5th from Navāṃśa Lagna, then Vedanta. You have deep faith in vedanta. Alright? If there is no planet in the 5th, then you should see the Lagna. Like that you have to see. Check the 2nd house of Navāṃśa kuṇḍalī.

Student: So, we have to check the 2nd house if there is no graha in 5th from Navāṃśa Lagna? Guruji: Then you have to see the 2nd house. Normally, aspects come. Normally, there will be definitely some aspect on the 5th house. Rāśi dṛṣṭi will come most probably from one or the other planet. So, please keep this in mind. Don’t ignore the 5th house of Navāṃśa. It is something which you will learn by yourself. You don’t need a teacher for this. God will be your teacher. 9th house? You need a teacher for the 9th house. It cannot come without a guru. He has Rāhu in the 9th house from Navāṃśa Lagna. So, he needs a guru for politics. Rāhu means there will definitely be political gyan and he will be a very good politician. And he might have had a good political guru. Pancham (5th) Chandra means he will believe in philosophy of Kṛṣṇa Bhagavān.

Okay. So, what is the philosophy of Kṛṣṇa bhagvan? Sāṅkhya Śāstra. It is sankhya. Right? What is it? Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Chandra, so, I said Kṛṣṇa. So, that why I said krishna philosophy.

Student: Karma Yoga

Guruji: Karma Yogī; but that is as a Viṣṇu Avatar. It is Viṣṇu Avatar, who is telling one to become a karm yogi. Why? Because Mercury is the kāraka of 10th house. 10th house is karm bhāva. That is why Viṣṇu Avatar will always ask you to become a karm yogi. I am not talking of Viṣṇu Avatar. I am talking of Śrī krishna. You read hi whole Gita, what do you think.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: What about bhakti? Bhakti is not there? What is the most powerful element of Chandra? It’s Jala. Jala. Not prithvi. To become a karm yogi, prithvi tattva should be strong.

Gurvi Ji: But that is Kṛṣṇa’s Life. In his life, he exemplified the Bhakti Mārga.

Guruji: Correct. Okay?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: It’s jala. Okay? We think that Makara is correct. So, tell me what daśā is he running? Jupiter mahadasha and Rāhu antardaśā has come. I want a prediction. Long time back I had told something about his horoscope.

Student: (not audible)

Guruji: what?

Student: When did Rāhu start?

Other Students: (not clear)

Guruji: Mercury is in 12th house with Sun and Mars. Mercury Sun and Mars are in the 12th house. 2nd from Ārūḍha Lagna. Jupiter Daśā and Rāhu Antardaśā is starting. Please tell me what do you think will happen. By the way, Rāhu is in 9th from Ārūḍha Lagna and it is Exalted. In Ayush Exaltation. Rāhu has the strength in this horoscope, Rāhu can even kill somebody and give him Rājayoga. What is his Amātyakāraka? Sūrya. Does Amātyakāraka have dṛṣṭi from Rāhu? Yes. So, he is a good politician. It’s simple. If Amātyakāraka does not have dṛṣṭi from Rāhu, person will not do politics. He cannot do. Not possible. Never. Even if he does, he will become a small politician, like Municiple Election at max. That does not matter. If Amātyakāraka does not have dṛṣṭi from Rāhu, he cannot be a top politician. You need Rāhu.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: yes. Everybody knows that. Transit of Saturn is very favorable. Should he wait for Jupiter to come to the sign Saggittarius?

Student: Jail

Another Student: 1 and half year are remaining (rest of it is not clear)

Guruji: Right. He will be 82; right? Remember I asked you to remember the age of 82? There is something in that 82. 82, nobody will follow. Just remember that. Try to find out why i said, 82.

Student: Jupiter will be in Dhanuṣ when he will be 82.

Guruji: It will be in quadrant to the Ārūḍha Lagna? Kendra to Ārūḍha Lagna? Kendra to Ārūḍha Lagna! Very very good transits. Very good transits.

Student: What will happen?

Guruji: We hope He becomes prime-minister.

Student: He can become Rashtrapati

Guruji: He is not interested in becoming Rashtrapati, I will tell you frankly.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Who wants it? First the person wants it but once they go through it (being Rashtrapati), then nobody wants it.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: If you ask him, he is very clear about it. He is very clear. Very bold, very clear. There is this one quality about him, he is an extremely bold man. Extremely bold. You cannot even doubt his boldness. Extremely Bold Man! And, he is very Gutsy. He does what nobody else can even imagine, what others not have guts to do, they would feel like “what will the people of the Country say”. If he likes it, he will do it. That is Advani.

Student: What is making him so bold?

Guruji: Ketu. Lagneśa in Lagna. Even the.. really.. I am telling you. This Ketu is very very powerful. People tend to underestimate Ketu a lot.

Student: unclear

Guruji: Remember one thing, when he does the Ratha Yātrā, there is nobody who can match him. Why? I want an answer. When he is on that Rath, there nobody else who can challenge him or equal to him. Why is it so? Political propaganda associated with a Chariot, which is a Vehicle. The word Ratha means Vehicle, Chariot. It is associated with Śukra. So, please give me an answer, it’s very easy. I have given all the hints. Śukra debilitated means that the Ratha has broken. And he starts the Rath means that Śukra has risen again. The moment Śukra starts rising again, he will also rise. There are two people, that is why I told you the horoscope of L K Advani and Pramod Mahajan should be studied side by side. The second person who has risen with this Rath is Pramod Mahajan. L Advani has risen by his own efforts. But Pramod Mahajan rose because of the Ratha only and not by his own efforts. And you will notice a peculiar thing, he became Defence Minister because Advani Ji could not become Defence Minister and that portfolio had to be kept for Advani Ji. So, till Advani Ji becomes, he will hold the portfolio for him. See the game. Are you seeing the Game? That is how he became defence minister for 15 to 30 days.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: That means what? Please speak further…. His śiṣya will take his power. This is what is happening to him all the time.

Student: is Mercury … (not clear)

Guruji: Yes, with exchange of the Ārūḍha and 12th from Ārūḍha.

There is exchange of 11th and 12th, involving the Ārūḍha Lagna. So, his image is… He started the Rath, and because of that his śiṣya Pramod Mahajan rose in power. You observe one peculiar thing. Pramod Mahajan became defense minister because Advani could not become. When two person have same Ārūḍha, then both try to sit on one chair of power. It’s a typical situation. What is this episode of Pramod Mahajan telling me about Advani? It is something very crucial. If you see his Dashamsh, there are two people involved, Pramod and one lady is also there, I don’t want to take the name, who are his true main disciples, as far as politics is concerned. Main disciples as far as politics is concerned. But frankly, they have benefited more than this man could had done. They have taken a lot of benefit from him. Lots of benefit they have taken from him.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yeah, You see? Mercury has gone to 12th and is in parivartan with Śukra, that means Śukra will rise and Sushma Swaraj will come up now. And, when that Mercury finishes Ketu will rise, otherwise that Ketu cannot rise; because of Mercury. And Rāhu is coming. Rāhu will not…. As soon as Rāhu started, and among these, who will Rāhu kill the first? Rāhu will kill Mercury. Do you remember the Kala Chakra of Politics? Rāhu will first kill Mercury. And see, he killed Mercury, didn’t he?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: All this friendship is due to, for and because of one reason only: Ārūḍha.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yes. Yes. There are other things, I will tell you later. You will know. I know many things about this internally. This is a weird case, you know, when you hear some of these things, you are like, “this man was nothing before Advani Ji. Advani Ji turned his life around from rags to riches, even then he did that to Advani”. People of politics are like only. Horrible! Ups and downs.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: That means he is becoming Prime Minister. That is the meaning of Viparīta Rājayoga. You check whether Viparīta Rājayoga is being formed or not. Check what I am asking you to. Is it forming or not, and what is happening in 12th house, it’s peculiar. Lagneśa is in 12th and Lord of A10 is also in 12th. His Lagna and 10th (Rajya) will come back to him after someone’s death (12th house).

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yes. Very very. Too much, beyond limits. If AL is in 11th, then the person has no limits. Do you have AL in 11th?

Student: yes. And his(/hers) too

Guruji: Oh, yours too, is in 11th? See!

Student: the person doesn’t see right or wrong.

Guruji: Yes, you have understood it correctly. Absolutely correct, because it’s simple that he considers himself as Rudra, because that is Ekadash Rudra, and he considers himself as Hanumān, he thinks that he is so strong like Hanumān, “I should have all the power, I should have all the position”. There is no limit.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: How will it happen, you tell me. Because the AL has gone to 8th from 4th house. See from Ārūḍha, which house is in 6th from Ārūḍha Lagna, you will never get that in your life. That is impossible in your life. It very simple. The house which is in 6th from Ārūḍha, it is enemy for your Ārūḍha Lagna. If Ārūḍha Lagna is in 11th house, then, the 6th from that is your 4th house. So, you will never get that in your life. That’s impossible. Satisfaction, is a very peculiar thing. Happiness can come and go, it is a very transitory thing. Satisfaction, is very difficult. See, look at Advani Ji.

Student: (not student)

Guruji: what was he saying

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Is he doing a Ratha Yātrā right now? He started the Ratha Yātrā, and in that same time, Pramod Mahajan rose to power.

Student: But Ratha Yātrā was planned by Pramod Mahajan

Guruji: That is alright. But, he doesn’t know Jyotiṣa. They don’t know Jyotiṣa.

Student: Seeing all this, only one thing comes to mind, that one should go and sit in The Himalayas in Meditation.

Guruji: These people wont do that. Your goal is different than theirs. You want to leave the body.

Student: (not clear)

Student: I should travel (rest of it is unclear)

Guruji: Right, that is from childhood because you have Ārūḍha Lagna in 11th house. Correct. Surely it is. Always. Okay, so we have tentatively fixed Advani Ji’s Lagna to Makara. You work on this chart to correct his dashamsh etc. I want prediction in next class, about, if he ever becomes Prime Minister, then when he will become one. I want to know exactly when he will become. We didn’t time it, what we had done till now is a guess work. Makara Navāṃśa.

Student: Okay, We have taken Makara Navāṃśa.

Guruji: It will be roughly for 10 minutes. In that 10 minutes, there will be two to three dashamsh, you can check and correct that also.

Student: (unclear)

Guruji: See, it is like.. I am telling you.. he is sitting quietly there.

Student: Makara Lagna is very Cunning.

Guruji: Okay, we will now see third chart for today is the Manmohan Singh Government, which is very important. We have some more time for one more or two more charts. Govt of Manmohan Singh did swearing in ceremony on 22 may 2004. It was in 2004, so, that means it has been two years since they sworn in. 5:32:30pm, in Delhi. Tithi is Śukla Tṛtīyā. Nakṣatra is Ārdrā, Śanivāra, and Śūla Yog. Garija Karaṇa. Tulā Lagna, Ketu is in Lagna. Rāhu and Budha are in 7th house. Sūrya is in 8th house. And there are four planets in Bhāgya Bhāva (9th house). Guru is in 11th house. Alright? Ketu is in Tulā Lagna. Rāhu and Budha in 7th. Sūrya in 8th. Four graha, Śani, Śukra Chandra, Maṅgala are in bhāgya sthaan, in Mithuna. Guru is in Labha bhāva. At the first sight, what do you see in this, tell me something about this chart.

Student: All planets are sitting in the bright, no planet is in the dark.

Guruji: See, don’t tell me about bright and dark half; you can call them visible and invisible. Just because somebody is invisible, does not mean that he is dark.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: So, what is it that you want to tell? Rāhu and Ketu are in 1-7 axis. Very good point, what else? Student: (unclear)

Guruji: Okay, so you are saying that, all are in kendr and trikoṇa, except Mercury. What does it mean? Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Is there a parivartana between Maṅgala and Budha? What do you want to say about that? Will father change?

Student: yes

Guruji: What does it actually mean? Look at the chart, they have sworn in for 5 years and Rāhu/Ketu axis is cutting straight in 1-7 houses. All graha are in visible half. Visible means? They will give effect quickly. Invisible means that they will give effect with delay. Śāstra is very clear that all graha sitting in visible half give result quickly and all graha that are sitting in invisible half, give result with delay. If I break these 5 years in two halves then Rāhu/Ketu axis is in 1-7, and all graha are on one side. In the first half, all these graha will give result. Means that Rājayoga is certain for 2.5 years and cannot be stopped by anybody. See, that after passing of 2.5 years some deadly parivartan is happening. Budha is a shubh graha, But Budha will not remain Budha. When shubh graha is Lord of bhāgya, then bhāgya is also shubh. When ashubh graha is Lord of bhāgya, then bhāgya is also ashubh. Maṅgala is paap graha, and is very malefic for this particular Lagna. And, if Maṅgala goes to bhāgya, it will ruin the bhāgya. It means bhāgya is also going under parivartana, and many other things are also going under parivartan. Total radical change, total reversal of the situation. All this that they have/will make, will get reversed. When? Right at the end of 2.5 years and the start of second half. When are 2.5 years completing? Student: Nov2006

Guruji: Nov2006, after Diwali. You will see firecrackers.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: See, firecrackers will start in November, and watch what happens till December. One after the another, such storms will happen that nobody will be able to understand what is going on. You cannot imagine the storms that will come. The root will be where, do you know? Nepal. 6th Lord is Jupiter, North-Eastern Direction. Nepal, see that has already started. Nepal’s issue will remove them from power. This is what happens when you don’t have a working foreign minister. When you don’t have a foreign affairs minister, what will you do?

Student: We don’t have a foreign minister?

Guruji: Who is the foreign minister now?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Madam, We do not have a foreign minister.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: That is what is known as by the rule of default. The portfolio has been allocated to a minister by default it falls back to the prime minister. It is automatic. So, by default, he has got it. We do not have a foreign minister today. What will happen if it is not there.

Student (not clear)

Guruji: The parivartana of Maṅgala and Budha; the communists will completely change their stance. Because what his happening in Nepal is a battle between Democracy and Communists, and the king. There are three corners to the triangle. The king prefers Democracy because then he is thinking of the British System. The democrats are supported by India and America. Democrats want the Indian or the American system of democracy. India knows that it is too dangerous to gamble for anything, so, it has taken stand in favor of the British system. British System means that the King will also continue, Democracy will continue. Maoists want total revolution. This is the situation. Who is the most powerful in Democracy? Patra, the Newspaper, i.e., Mercury is the strongest. Communists get strength from? Maṅgala. Maṅgala is the strength of Maoists. They always come by fighting. Never in history did Communists people come through peaceful talks. They will only come to power with the Gun. Otherwise, they cannot come to power. This is their system. Only through the battle or the Gun. Red is their favorite color. It will be their, you see. It’s natural. So, what will happen in the parivartana of Maṅgala and Budha? What should we do? We should advice them, right? “You should appoint a Foreign Minister as soon as possible. What is the advantage that we will get from appointing a Foreign Minister? Please tell me.

Student: 12th house

Guruji: Right, the 12th Lord which is so weak today, that 12th Lord and 9th Lord, will get some strength through this. The 12th Lord is also the 9th Lord. Let us hope. We are hoping that they will be able to do something.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Ji. They should do something. In fact, frankly, if they ask me, Kunwar Natwar Singh Ji should come back. He has been asked to go, on a flimsy ground.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: The thing is happening. In Iraq, some deal happened. Absurd! Some deal for Oil has happened. Chanakya has said something profound: when the fish stays inside water, who can count the amount of water it has drunk? What can you say? And Kunwar Natwar Singh is also from the royal family. Let their eyes open up.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Why can’t they do it? They can do it if their is a blessing of Śrī Viṣṇu.

Student: Advani ji can become PM

Guruji: Yes, if it does not happen, then Advani Ji can become Prime Minister. It is clearly visible. Why am I taking this horoscope? See, I have picked up a series of charts, very selectively. So that I will…. how my thoughts go.. I saw the chart of Pramod Mahajan, then I thought about kuṇḍalī of Advani Ji. I remembered some things about his kuṇḍalī. Then I looked at the chart of Govt of Manmohan Singh.

Student: in Mercury-Mercury (rest is unclear)

Guruji: All game is about Mercury.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Whose?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: Yes, Why?

Student: You are playing with…

(everybody laughing)

Guruji: See; when I am looking at charts, It feels good to know how all of the things are working together. You study the whole thing, it can’t be known through only one chart. Yes, Rāhu has dṛṣṭi, so that was a weakness. Correct. But I have got over it.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: It’s not a good thing. For Advani Ji; he should start the Ratha Yātrā again.

Student: He should?

Guruji: he should. After some time, give it a gap and start it again. The more Ratha Yātrā he does;…. see, he started the Ratha Yātrā from where? From Somanātha, right? Somanātha is Taurus, Moon? Right? He has Moon exalted in the Navāṃśa in the 5th house? Whenever he starts the Ratha Yātrā from Somanātha, there is nobody who is able to stop him. Because of that exalted Moon in 5th house from Navāṃśa Lagna. All he has to do, is to start it from Somanātha, any place whose name is linked with Moon. Somanātha, or you can say…

Student: But this time he started it from Dvārakā.

Guruji: Yes, this time, he started it from Dvārakā.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: No. No. No. Somanātha is ruled by Moon.

Student: But Kṛṣṇa and Moon are linked to Dvārakā

Guruji: This Dvārakā is not the real Dvārakā. The real Dvārakā is under water. It’s a very good place to start. A very good place to start.

But Mathurā it is not for power. It is for spiritual thing. When you start something spiritual, you should start it from Mathurā. He should start it from Somanātha. See, some place would be called chandrashekharpur, or, all the places which are named on Moon, those places would be very lucky for him to start.

Student: inaudible.

Guruji: Ji. But that is Tryambakeśvara, so, that is place of Śukra, Śukra is powerful there.

Student: (inaudible)

Guruji: No. You have to see from Moon. The graha which is sitting there, how can you ignore that graha?

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: In mundane, if there is kāraka parivartan, then Rāhu will attack atleast once for sure.

Student: (not clear)

Guruji: It is so easy to say this. How it is possible? It was Vajpayee who said, “I am becoming Prime Minister, and he told the date”. Only Vajpayee can do this politics. Only Vajpayee can do this. He is a deadly man.

Students Discussing: (not clear)

Guruji: All the politicians today, are in a deep state of shock. They are feeling like “if Pramod Mahajan was shot dead by his own brother, then what are we”. Today, they are in a deep state of shock. I am happy. I told them, “I am healthy now, come, come, come”.

Students: (not clear)

Guruji: At that time, Rāvaṇa has ten heads, today, Rāvaṇa has 1000 heads. How many heads will you cut?

Students Discussing:…..

Guruji: What will bodyguard do, he won’t be like, holding the body throughout the day.

Students: (not clear)

Guruji: Naturally, they had private discussion with brother.

Student: not clear

Guruji: Okay, there was a question about France. Some people were telling me that, in France, a lot of changes are happening. And, there is an ethnic strife is sort of, starting there. But i wrote to somebody and I did not get that answer. That person sent me the chart of France. And he told me, Sanjay, can you see in the chart, does it really show that something like this starting up in France?” Because in England, there is always something similar about france going on. “Don’t go to France, you know, there is a lot of ethnic problem going on over there. You are brown, that is White, etc. etc. like this, it keeps going on”. Whereas, french are the people who taught equality and democracy to the world. So, the chart is: I don’t know how to say it. Veme Republica?

Student: (discussing something)

Guruji: It is V E M E. Like, India is Bharat, but nobody knows India is Bharat.

Students: (discussing)

Guruji: how many do refer to this country as Bharat. Please tell me. What is the name of this country? Student: (discussing)

Guruji: This is Veme Republic. Anyway. 28 September 1958. This has been sent to me by a person of France. I asked him to research and tell me his country’s horoscope. 10pm, Paris, France. This is the new republican thing, that was accepted.

Students: (discussing)

Guruji: Yes. 10pm.

The name of this country is Bharat. Tell me how many of you prefer the name of this country to Bharat? The name is Bharat, that is India. Not, India, that is Bharat.

This is Veme Republique.

28 september 1958

This has been sent to me by a person from France. I asked him to research and tell me his country’s horoscope.

10pm. Paris, France.

This is the new republican thing that was accepted. This is new, the France that is going on today, this is based upon the 1958. Constitution.

Chart is Mithuna Lagna.

4th house Mercury exalted with Venus, Rāhu and Sun.

I have wisely chosen this chart.

Jupiter in the 5th house.

saturn in 6th house

10th house has Moon and Ketu.

12th house has Maṅgala.

Student: the year was 1958?

Guruji: Yes, 1958.

Currently the daśā that is going is Chandra. Since 2001, Chandra daśā is going on. Look at this very carefully. Nakṣatra is revati. Chandra is of Kṛṣṇa Pratipada. So, it is strong Moon.

(notes and comments from Garvit Kumar (transcriber/translator): The strength is seen according to Purnima giving it the highest possible strength and the Amāvasyā giving it the lowest possible strength. So, krishna pratipada is the next day from purnima, so, at this tithi, Chandra is still very very strong)

Sudent: I filled in the details but the chart is different from what you told.I filled in 2 hour east of gmt.

Guruji: It is 1 hour east of Greenwich Mean Time. Not 2 hours east. correct it. (this is DST correction). At that time, the French were not accepting the DST correction. So it is clear? Do you see France coming to prominence? Do you agree that Chandra is Maraka? In the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan we saw that Mithuna was the Lagna and Chandra was Rudra. So, here also, Chandra is Rudra. Chandra is with Ketu, so it is Prani Rudra. Chandra is with Ketu aspected by the Rāhu and Sun and debilitated Venus.

Student: It is not Prani Rudra

Guruji: Rudra is between 2nd and 8th Lord

Student: How do you see which is the one Rudra which is going to kill? Guruji: Rudra has the bala (strength) to take prana (life force). The more Papa it is, the more it is going to kill. Sometimes, if a debilitated graha gives dṛṣṭi to that Rudra, or he is himself debilitated, or Chandra for example, has low Paksh bala. For Budha, if Budha is sitting with heavy malefics, is aspected by malefics, and is sitting in the house of enemies, is not exalted, at all these placed and condition,s that Rudra becomes the Praani Rudra. Aprani Rudra if becomes debilitated, becomes Prani Rudra.

(notes and comments from me: Apraani Rudra is the graha among the two rudra, which is not the Praani rudra and which is not going to kill. But if this graha becomes debilitated, this becomes Praani Rudra).

Guruji: Such a graha says, “you step aside, I will kill this native”. In such a condition, both of them are probably fighting over “who will kill first”. Alright? Here, it is happening between Chandra and Śani. So, Śani is probably saying to Chandra, “I am sitting in Vṛścika, in Rāśi of my enemy. But I am in 6th house, so, I also have to do a little bit of Good things for him”. Śani which is placed in 6th house, is the best kind of Śani. Can you explain why is it so?

Student: It is the kāraka of 6th house.

Guruji: it is also the kāraka of 8th, and 12th house, then why is it the best when in 6th house, and better than when it is in 8th or 12th house? you should judge by where it’s dṛṣṭi is falling. The most horrofic thing about Śani, is his dṛṣṭi (aspect). 6th house is such a house for Śani that you wont find a better place for Śani to be sitting in. Because his dṛṣṭi is going to 8th house, 12th house and 3rd house, and he himself is sitting in 6th house. That’s why In Narsimha Puran, when there is a discussion about the horoscope of Narsimha Deva, there Suta Deva is describing that Śani in 6th, is having Amrita Dṛṣṭi (aspectf of Nectar). Mīna Lagna, and Śani in 6th, is having amrita dṛṣṭi. It dṛṣṭi is like Nectar, (elixir to immortality), because it’s dṛṣṭi on 8th house is giving longevity, it’s aspect on 12th house is giving you good Lokas after death as this removes the chances of you going to bad lokas after death. It’s dṛṣṭi on 3rd house, makes you so brave and courageous that your enemy will remember you till his last breath. Śani is best in 6th house. But there is a condition, Śani in 6th from Lagna is good, but to give fully good results, it should also be nicely placed from Ārūḍha Lagna. Śani in 3rd house has a problem that it gives dṛṣṭi on 5th house is bad, it’s dṛṣṭi on bhāgya i.e., 9th house is bad. 9th house is also Dharma, so, that also gets affected. (dharma is moral ethical code). A person having Śani in 3rd house, will certainly disrespect either the 5th house or the 9th house, during the daśā of such a Śani.

Students: It is in 3rd from Ārūḍha.

Guruji: So, this is a fantastic Śani. This is such a nicely placed Śani. This a fantastic Śani. But it will also be the cause of his End. Because it’s 3rd from Ārūḍha, will become a cause of death, will give death due to disease.

Guruji: Okay, now tell me the effects of Moon (Chandra). Chandra is very badly afflicted. Chandra is eclipsed with Ketu. It is like eclipse yoga, you can see that. Rāhu is aspecting it. nīca (debilitated) Śukra (Venus) is aspecting it. The aspect of Budha is the only redeeming factor. Why wont that Moon kill? Since the start of the Moon daśā, many problems have risen.

Student: (inaudible)

Guruji: Correct, you have said correctly that many problems are here. And you can see that this Budha will start in 2007 february. It will be the good period. Yes, the Moon daśā is till 2011. The daśā of Moon is for 10 years. And Why is Moon daśā so bad? 1. Moon is terribly afflicted Prani Rudra.

2. 4th house has grahan yoga of Rāhu and Sūrya having yuti of nīca Śukra. S0, the 4th house is so badly beaten, hence, atleast the kāraka of that house should be healthy. It means that your property is inhabitated by all kinds of elements, migrated from all kinds of nation. Wherever France went, that country nearly said that “we are our lord, and we are French, so, you should allow us to come”. So, all kinds of people are going there and applying for citizenship there. So, today it has become what is known as a Trick Basket. Ethiopia, Tunisia etc etc. There is a lot of disturbance inside the 4th house, that is, inside the home. By the way, Pramod Mahajan also had turbulence/fights/conflicts inside his home.

Student: Exactly that what i was going to say

Guruji: Interesting, how it manifests! So, lets suppose that a Papa Graha is sitting inside a home, so, the kāraka of that house should be sitting in which house to give nice results?

Students: the kāraka of that house?

Guruji: Yes. In which house the kāraka should be placed? Suppose,a straight case, if Śani is placed inside Lagna, you should check where and how Sūrya is placed, because Sūrya is the kāraka of 1st house (Śani is in marana kāraka sthan in the Lagna, is considered to be heavily malefic). You should straight away check Sūrya in that case. Don’t bother to see Śani. Don’t worry about Śani. Look at Sūrya because Sūrya is the kāraka. And if Sūrya is strong, then, The native will touch the sky. Don’t worry at all, although the child have initial difficulty in life, but will come out of all that. See the horoscope of Lal Kṛṣṇa Advani. He has Śani in Lagna in Marana Kāraka. The horrible Śani is the Śani that is placed in Lagna. Horrible. Marana Kāraka. The dṛṣṭi of that Śani is so bad, see, on 3rd house, on 10th house, on 7th house; singlehandedly, Śani has destroyed three kendras.

(Notes and comments from me: remember some minutes back, Guruji tought that Śani should be judged in accordance to where his Dṛṣṭi is falling).

Student? Where is his Sūrya? Guruji: Sūrya is debilitated in 12th. But in exalted Navāṃśa. Sūrya has got nīca Bhanga Rājayoga.

(notes and comments from me: any debilitated graha gets nīca Bhanga Rājayoga, if that graha is simultaneously exalted in Navāṃśa. nicha means debilitation. Bhanga means cancellation. So, nīca Bhanga Rājayoga is the Rājayoga that arises out of cancellation of debilitation. Best condition for nicha bhanga to happen is when the graha doesn’t need any other graha for it. This happens in two cases only. First is through Navāṃśa, already described. Second is when that graha is debilitated in a kendra to Lagna or Moon, and is also the kāraka of that bhāva. For example, Mithuna Lagna and Budha placed in 10th house.)

Guruji continuing: In Advani’s chart, Sūrya is guaranteeing that “I will definitely giving nīca Bhang Rājayoga. he has risen by capitalising on the name of Śrī Rāma. Whatever you can say, but you have to agree that he has risen through Rāma, not Śani. Sūrya has helped him to rise. Please go and Study the horoscopes. Mahatma gandhi also had Sūrya in 12th house. Just like Advani. Maṅgala, Śukra and Budha were in Lagna. Sūrya is in 12th, in marana kāraka, but that Sūrya is strong in Navāṃśa, so, he came out of all problems by chanting the name of Śrī Rāma. That Sūrya is strong in Navāṃśa. You see. What are we ;earning from here? i am not looking at the Lagna, I am looking at the Kāraka. The kāraka: if it is placed in the 12th house. That means: we have learned a very important principle out of it.

“If the kāraka of a house, is sitting in 12th house, then if we Chant the Mantra and Name of the Viṣṇu Avatara related to that graha, you can get out of all of your problems. Thereafter, no problem, no matter how big it is, can stand in your way. that house is shine provided you chanted that Viṣṇu Avatar’s name. For example, For Lagna and kāraka Sūrya, it is Raam. We are dicussing about bhāva and kāraka, and we have taken the example of Lagna. You can apply it to other houses also “.

I will also tell you the Scripture from where I have taken this. There was a book that were studying yesterday. But the main śloka comes from Bhavarth Ratnakar. The root śloka about this, is given in Bhavarth Ratnakar. A person in fortunate, with respect to that bhāva, whose kāraka is in the twelfth house. A person is fortunate with respect to that bhāva whose kāraka is in the 12th house from Lagna. The reason was beautifully explained by my Guru.

“12th house is the house of expense, and the thing that you spend more on (or buy more of), or invest more on, that house will increase.”

It is so simple that if you keep buying ice cream, it means you will eat more ice cream. The thing that you invest on, that thing will increase. My gurudev uses simple words, but the meaning is very deep. Not only money, it’s about energy, mind, your attention is going to that 12th house. Since 12th house is about sleep, you will be able to sleep better and have good sleep if you keep fulfilling that house whose kāraka is placed in 12th house.

Both Advani and Gandhi, have Papa Graha (malefic planet) in Lagna, and Sūrya is in 12th house. So, both chanted Rāma name, so, Lagna got purified and strong, and they have lived a long life, and they have achieved success in political life. They have achieved it. That got out of the clutches of that papa Graha that is sitting Lagna. So, if a person is having a papa-graha in the 4th house, (coming back to the chart of France, which is the current discussion), kāraka of 4th house is Moon and so, Moon must be in the 12th house. The solution, the remedial measure that is very important, is this. Don’t run after that Papa Graha, that will give you nothing. If ghost has entered your house, you don’t go and worship the ghost, he will trouble you more. You shoud worshipping and propitiat ing that kāraka. If there is lack of peace in your home, do worship of Kṛṣṇa, (Moon). He is the kāraka of the 4th house, automatically he will do it. The first thing that happens to a person who is doing Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevavaya, is that, he starts feeling peace inside the heart. Really you will feel very peaceful and calm from inside because the 4th house is being calmed.

(Notes and comments from me: Lagna is very important in politics, because Lagna is fame. For a person, who is into politics, Lagna is not buddhi, Lagna is fame. And fame equals political success because you get more votes you are more famous).

If someone is having Śani in 12th house, and Rāhu is in 6th house, it’s a beautiful yoga. Because Rāhu…. My Gurudeva explained this and said, We are spirit’s in reality, and for us, guru is the highest, and Rāhu is the worst. If you believe that there is a soul inside every being, then you will consider the Guru as highest and Rāhu as worst. “in whichever house Rāhu is placed, from there shall Rāhu will come in your life, so, the kāraka of that house should be in the 12th house. If that kāraka is there, then the person is very fortunate. By Viṣṇu with that Avatar’s name, you will get out of all these problems”. These are very simple remedial measures.

Students: if Śani is in 12th house, then there is his dṛṣṭi on 2nd house, and that is bad.

Guruji: In bhavas, there are so many debates, so, right now, I am not going into this There is Parāśara bhāva, this and that etc…

Another Student: Suppose, take example, Indira Gandhi has Śani in 12th house, so which house will go up?

Guruji: 6th house,

Student: 6th house will go up?

Guruji: 6th house will improve.

Student: 3rd house will also go up?

Guruji: yes, definitely.

Student: so, Śani in 12th house, is good for these things.

Guruji: Yes. Whereas Śani in Lagna, is very bad for the planets in the 6th house, whichever graha that is sitting in 6th house is like defeated. Why? Because Śani is kāraka of 6th house, and goes to Marana Kāraka in Lagna. So, you will suffer in matters of that graha that is sitting in 6th house, because it’s kāraka is sitting in Marana Kāraka Sthan. Take Indira Gandhi, Śani is in Lagna. The 6th house has Śukra and Rāhu. See what happened to her marriage. Really worst. When you see the whole thing that happened with her, I feel bad for her sometimes. Literally, for the sake of the country of whatever, she sacriuficed so much in marriage. Look at her personal life, what happened to her personal life is really tragic.

Student: What if it is the Lord of the 6th house?

Guruji: If it is the Lord of 6th house and placed in the 12th house, it is fantastic.

Student: For this life?

Guruji: Why? We are talking about the kāraka in the 12th. in applied to all bhavas. That means

If Śani is in 12th, you need to take the name of Kurma Avatar.

If Chandra is in 12th: Kṛṣṇa.

If Maṅgala is in 12th: Narsimha Deva

It is applicable in Rāśi, not in Navāṃśa. We are taking this for Rāśi because we wants results in this Rāśi world. If you taking this in karakansh, you will get the results in afterworld. Then you are talking about Mukti.

The two cases that we have discussed (Advani and Gandhi) have got good results in this Sansara. Mukti? I don’t think they are aiming for that. If they are aiming for mukti, they would be talking about karakansh, and not Rāśi.

The name of this country is Bharat. Tell me how many of you prefer the name of this country to Bharat? The name is Bharat, that is India. Not, India, that is Bharat.

This is Veme Republique.

28 september 1958

This has been sent to me by a person from France. I asked him to research and tell me his country’s horoscope.

10pm. Paris, France.

This is the new republican thing that was accepted. This is new, the France that is going on today, this is based upon the 1958. Constitution.

Chart is Mithuna Lagna.

4th house Mercury exalted with Venus, Rāhu and Sun.

I have wisely chosen this chart.

Jupiter in the 5th house.

saturn in 6th house

10th house has Moon and Ketu.

12th house has Maṅgala.

Student: the year was 1958?

Guruji: Yes, 1958.

Currently the daśā that is going is Chandra. Since 2001, Chandra daśā is going on. Look at this very carefully. Nakṣatra is revati. Chandra is of Kṛṣṇa Pratipada. So, it is strong Moon.

(notes and comments from Garvit Kumar (transcriber/translator): The strength is seen according to Purnima giving it the highest possible strength and the Amāvasyā giving it the lowest possible strength. So, krishna pratipada is the next day from purnima, so, at this tithi, Chandra is still very very strong)

Sudent: I filled in the details but the chart is different from what you told.I filled in 2 hour east of gmt.

Guruji: It is 1 hour east of Greenwich Mean Time. Not 2 hours east. correct it. (this is DST correction). At that time, the French were not accepting the DST correction. So it is clear? Do you see France coming to prominence? Do you agree that Chandra is Maraka? In the horoscope of Pramod Mahajan we saw that Mithuna was the Lagna and Chandra was Rudra. So, here also, Chandra is Rudra. Chandra is with Ketu, so it is Prani Rudra. Chandra is with Ketu aspected by the Rāhu and Sun and debilitated Venus.

Student: It is not Prani Rudra

Guruji: Rudra is between 2nd and 8th Lord

Student: How do you see which is the one Rudra which is going to kill?

Guruji: Rudra has the bala (strength) to take prana (life force). The more Papa it is, the more it is going to kill. Sometimes, if a debilitated graha gives dṛṣṭi to that Rudra, or he is himself debilitated, or Chandra for example, has low Paksh bala. For Budha, if Budha is sitting with heavy malefics, is aspected by malefics, and is sitting in the house of enemies, is not exalted, at all these placed and condition,s that Rudra becomes the Praani Rudra. Aprani Rudra if becomes debilitated, becomes Prani Rudra.

(notes and comments from me: Apraani Rudra is the graha among the two rudra, which is not the Praani rudra and which is not going to kill. But if this graha becomes debilitated, this becomes Praani Rudra).

Guruji: Such a graha says, “you step aside, I will kill this native”. In such a condition, both of them are probably fighting over “who will kill first”. Alright? Here, it is happening between Chandra and Śani. So, Śani is probably saying to Chandra, “I am sitting in Vṛścika, in Rāśi of my enemy. But I am in 6th house, so, I also have to do a little bit of Good things for him”. Śani which is placed in 6th house, is the best kind of Śani. Can you explain why is it so?

Student: It is the kāraka of 6th house.

Guruji: it is also the kāraka of 8th, and 12th house, then why is it the best when in 6th house, and better than when it is in 8th or 12th house? you should judge by where it’s dṛṣṭi is falling. The most horrofic thing about Śani, is his dṛṣṭi (aspect). 6th house is such a house for Śani that you wont find a better place for Śani to be sitting in. Because his dṛṣṭi is going to 8th house, 12th house and 3rd house, and he himself is sitting in 6th house. That’s why In Narsimha Puran, when there is a discussion about the horoscope of Narsimha Deva, there Suta Deva is describing that Śani in 6th, is having Amrita Dṛṣṭi (aspectf of Nectar). Mīna Lagna, and Śani in 6th, is having amrita dṛṣṭi. It dṛṣṭi is like Nectar, (elixir to immortality), because it’s dṛṣṭi on 8th house is giving longevity, it’s aspect on 12th house is giving you good Lokas after death as this removes the chances of you going to bad lokas after death. It’s dṛṣṭi on 3rd house, makes you so brave and courageous that your enemy will remember you till his last breath. Śani is best in 6th house. But there is a condition, Śani in 6th from Lagna is good, but to give fully good results, it should also be nicely placed from Ārūḍha Lagna. Śani in 3rd house has a problem that it gives dṛṣṭi on 5th house is bad, it’s dṛṣṭi on bhāgya i.e., 9th house is bad. 9th house is also Dharma, so, that also gets affected. (dharma is moral ethical code). A person having Śani in 3rd house, will certainly disrespect either the 5th house or the 9th house, during the daśā of such a Śani.

Students: It is in 3rd from Ārūḍha.

Guruji: So, this is a fantastic Śani. This is such a nicely placed Śani. This a fantastic Śani. But it will also be the cause of his End. Because it’s 3rd from Ārūḍha, will become a cause of death, will give death due to disease.

Guruji: Okay, now tell me the effects of Moon (Chandra). Chandra is very badly afflicted. Chandra is eclipsed with Ketu. It is like eclipse yoga, you can see that. Rāhu is aspecting it. nīca (debilitated) Śukra (Venus) is aspecting it. The aspect of Budha is the only redeeming factor. Why wont that Moon kill? Since the start of the Moon daśā, many problems have risen.

Student: (inaudible)

Guruji: Correct, you have said correctly that many problems are here. And you can see that this Budha will start in 2007 february. It will be the good period. Yes, the Moon daśā is till 2011. The daśā of Moon is for 10 years. And Why is Moon daśā so bad? 1. Moon is terribly afflicted Prani Rudra.

2. 4th house has grahan yoga of Rāhu and Sūrya having yuti of nīca Śukra. S0, the 4th house is so badly beaten, hence, atleast the kāraka of that house should be healthy. It means that your property is inhabitated by all kinds of elements, migrated from all kinds of nation. Wherever France went, that country nearly said that “we are our lord, and we are French, so, you should allow us to come”. So, all kinds of people are going there and applying for citizenship there. So, today it has become what is known as a Trick Basket. Ethiopia, Tunisia etc etc. There is a lot of disturbance inside the 4th house, that is, inside the home. By the way, Pramod Mahajan also had turbulence/fights/conflicts inside his home.

Student: Exactly that what i was going to say

Guruji: Interesting, how it manifests! So, lets suppose that a Papa Graha is sitting inside a home, so, the kāraka of that house should be sitting in which house to give nice results? Students: the kāraka of that house?

Guruji:Yes. In which house the kāraka should be placed? Suppose,a straight case, if Śani is placed inside Lagna, you should check where and how Sūrya is placed, because Sūrya is the kāraka of 1st house (Śani is in marana kāraka sthan in the Lagna, is considered to be heavily malefic). You should straight away check Sūrya in that case. Don’t bother to see Śani. Don’t worry about Śani. Look at Sūrya because Sūrya is the kāraka. And if Sūrya is strong, then, The native will touch the sky. Don’t worry at all, although the child have initial difficulty in life, but will come out of all that. See the horoscope of Lal Kṛṣṇa Advani. He has Śani in Lagna in Marana Kāraka. The horrible Śani is the Śani that is placed in Lagna. Horrible. Marana Kāraka. The dṛṣṭi of that Śani is so bad, see, on 3rd house, on 10th house, on 7th house; singlehandedly, Śani has destroyed three kendras.

(Notes and comments from me: remember some minutes back, Guruji tought that Śani should be judged in accordance to where his Dṛṣṭi is falling).

Student: Where is his Sūrya?

Guruji: Sūrya is debilitated in 12th. But in exalted Navāṃśa. Sūrya has got nīca Bhanga Rājayoga.

(notes and comments from me: any debilitated graha gets nīca Bhanga Rājayoga, if that graha is simultaneously exalted in Navāṃśa. nicha means debilitation. Bhanga means cancellation. So, nīca Bhanga Rājayoga is the Rājayoga that arises out of cancellation of debilitation. Best condition for nicha bhanga to happen is when the graha doesn’t need any other graha for it. This happens in two cases only. First is through Navāṃśa, already described. Second is when that graha is debilitated in a kendra to Lagna or Moon, and is also the kāraka of that bhāva. For example, Mithuna Lagna and Budha placed in 10th house.)

Guruji continuing: In Advani’s chart, Sūrya is guaranteeing that “I will definitely giving nīca Bhang Rājayoga. he has risen by capitalising on the name of Śrī Rāma. Whatever you can say, but you have to agree that he has risen through Rāma, not Śani. Sūrya has helped him to rise. Please go and Study the horoscopes. Mahatma gandhi also had Sūrya in 12th house. Just like Advani. Maṅgala, Śukra and Budha were in Lagna. Sūrya is in 12th, in marana kāraka, but that Sūrya is strong in Navāṃśa, so, he came out of all problems by chanting the name of Śrī Rāma. That Sūrya is strong in Navāṃśa. You see. What are we ;earning from here? i am not looking at the Lagna, I am looking at the Kāraka. The kāraka: if it is placed in the 12th house. That means: we have learned a very important principle out of it.

“If the kāraka of a house, is sitting in 12th house, then if we Chant the Mantra and Name of the Viṣṇu Avatara related to that graha, you can get out of all of your problems. Thereafter, no problem, no matter how big it is, can stand in your way. that house is shine provided you chanted that Viṣṇu Avatar’s name. For example, For Lagna and kāraka Sūrya, it is Raam. We are dicussing about bhāva and kāraka, and we have taken the example of Lagna. You can apply it to other houses also “.

I will also tell you the Scripture from where I have taken this. There was a book that were studying yesterday. But the main śloka comes from Bhavarth Ratnakar. The root śloka about this, is given in Bhavarth Ratnakar. A person in fortunate, with respect to that bhāva, whose kāraka is in the twelfth house. A person is fortunate with respect to that bhāva whose kāraka is in the 12th house from Lagna. The reason was beautifully explained by my Guru.

“12th house is the house of expense, and the thing that you spend more on (or buy more of), or invest more on, that house will increase.”

It is so simple that if you keep buying ice cream, it means you will eat more ice cream. The thing that you invest on, that thing will increase. My gurudev uses simple words, but the meaning is very deep. Not only money, it’s about energy, mind, your attention is going to that 12th house. Since 12th house is about sleep, you will be able to sleep better and have good sleep if you keep fulfilling that house whose kāraka is placed in 12th house.

Both Advani and Gandhi, have Papa Graha (malefic planet) in Lagna, and Sūrya is in 12th house. So, both chanted Rāma name, so, Lagna got purified and strong, and they have lived a long life, and they have achieved success in political life. They have achieved it. That got out of the clutches of that papa Graha that is sitting Lagna. So, if a person is having a papa-graha in the 4th house, (coming back to the chart of France, which is the current discussion), kāraka of 4th house is Moon and so, Moon must be in the 12th house. The solution, the remedial measure that is very important, is this. Don’t run after that Papa Graha, that will give you nothing. If ghost has entered your house, you don’t go and worship the ghost, he will trouble you more. You shoud worshipping and propitiat ing that kāraka. If there is lack of peace in your home, do worship of Kṛṣṇa, (Moon). He is the kāraka of the 4th house, automatically he will do it. The first thing that happens to a person who is doing Om Namo Bhagvate Vasudevavaya, is that, he starts feeling peace inside the heart. Really you will feel very peaceful and calm from inside because the 4th house is being calmed.

(Notes and comments from me: Lagna is very important in politics, because Lagna is fame. For a person, who is into politics, Lagna is not buddhi, Lagna is fame. And fame equals political success because you get more votes you are more famous).

If someone is having Śani in 12th house, and Rāhu is in 6th house, it’s a beautiful yoga. Because Rāhu…. My Gurudeva explained this and said, We are spirit’s in reality, and for us, guru is the highest, and Rāhu is the worst. If you believe that there is a soul inside every being, then you will consider the Guru as highest and Rāhu as worst. “in whichever house Rāhu is placed, from there shall Rāhu will come in your life, so, the kāraka of that house should be in the 12th house. If that kāraka is there, then the person is very fortunate. By Viṣṇu with that Avatar’s name, you will get out of all these problems”. These are very simple remedial measures.

Students: if Śani is in 12th house, then there is his dṛṣṭi on 2nd house, and that is bad.

Guruji: In bhavas, there are so many debates, so, right now, I am not going into this There is Parāśara bhāva, this and that etc…

Another Student: Suppose, take example, Indira Gandhi has Śani in 12th house, so which house will go up?

Guruji: 6th house,

Student: 6th house will go up?

Guruji: 6th house will improve.

Student: 3rd house will also go up?

Guruji: yes, definitely.

Student: so, Śani in 12th house, is good for these things.

Guruji: Yes. Whereas Śani in Lagna, is very bad for the planets in the 6th house, whichever graha that is sitting in 6th house is like defeated. Why? Because Śani is kāraka of 6th house, and goes to Marana Kāraka in Lagna. So, you will suffer in matters of that graha that is sitting in 6th house, because it’s kāraka is sitting in Marana Kāraka Sthan. Take Indira Gandhi, Śani is in Lagna. The 6th house has Śukra and Rāhu. See what happened to her marriage. Really worst. When you see the whole thing that happened with her, I feel bad for her sometimes. Literally, for the sake of the country of whatever, she sacriuficed so much in marriage. Look at her personal life, what happened to her personal life is really tragic.

Student: What if it is the Lord of the 6th house?

Guruji: If it is the Lord of 6th house and placed in the 12th house, it is fantastic.

Student: For this life?

Guruji: Why? We are talking about the kāraka in the 12th. in applied to all bhavas. That means

If Śani is in 12th, you need to take the name of Kurma Avatar.

If Chandra is in 12th: Kṛṣṇa.

If Maṅgala is in 12th: Narsimha Deva

It is applicable in Rāśi, not in Navāṃśa. We are taking this for Rāśi because we wants results in this Rāśi world. If you taking this in karakansh, you will get the results in afterworld. Then you are talking about Mukti.

The two cases that we have discussed (Advani and Gandhi) have got good results in this Sansara. Mukti? I don’t think they are aiming for that. If they are aiming for mukti, they would be talking about karakansh, they would not be talking about Lagna. You would take ātma as kendra, and would examine all graha from there. We are considering Lagna as kendra and examining all grahas from there. It means we are talking about this life. Not afterlife. We are talking about the manifested life. When we examine ātma in Navāṃśa, then, we actually analyse the dharma of ātma. That’s why karakansh is very important.

Student: if we take Lagna as buddhi and Moon as sharira, because our body is born from our mother and Moon is kāraka of mother.

Guruji: No. No. Moon is longevity.

Student: so, Moon is not body? But our body has come from mother.

Guruji: This is very important. You will consider Moon as mother? Or would you analyse 4th from Moon for mother?

Student: 4th from Moon

Guruji: So, right. 4th from Moon is mother. Similarly, father is known by examining Sun? or is it analyzed by examining 9th from Sūrya? You should take 9th from Sun, as your father. So there are many such concepts. Likewise, just because the child is coming from mother and to say that Moon is alone the kāraka of mother, is wrong to say that. Because the physical body has come from mother, that is why, Moon and Maṅgala are the kāraka for mother. Blood came from mother, so, Maṅgala is also linked to Mother.

Sun and Venus become kāraka for father. These are called sthira kārakas. When you talking about the physical bodies, Chandra and Maṅgala become the kāraka for mother. Sūrya and Śukra are kāraka for father. You can’t just take Sūrya as kāraka for father while ignoring Śukra. Because father and father’s desire, both are the cause for the birth of the offspring. Mother and the blood of Mother, are the source of the offspring. This is very important, the desire of father and the blood of the mother. If there is power in the blood of the mother, then a powerful offspring like a Lion will be born. If the blood of mother is weak, child wont be that powerful. When a warrior goes to war, he takes blessings from mother. Because the mother has given her milk to her offspring to give physical strength. Tejas comes from blood of mother. Milk and Blood are correlated. Seed is Śukra, and Śukra is also the desire of father. Sperm is the career of the ātma, that’s why Śukra and Sūrya come together. Ātma came, so, that’s why ātma is born due to desires. So, the desires come from father, but Tejas comes from mother. Ātma-bala (willpower) comes from father. But physical strength is also important. Mahatma gandhi had ātma-bala but had little physical strength. So, when we are talking of physical strength, we are talking about Moon and Mars. When we are talking of ātma-bala, we are talking of Sun and Venus.

Student: what if there is little physical strength but a lot of ātma-bala (willpower)? Guruji: ultimately, ātma-bala is very important. If someone has physical strength then he should becomes a soldier etc. If there is less physical strength, you should not fight. If there is ātma-bala, then one should fight along with truth.

Navāṃśa is seen for Iccha (desire) and bhāgya (fortune). Bhāgya is ultimately in karakansh. Two graha are very important from karakansh:

1. Sūrya from Atmakāraka

      2. Śukra from Atmakāraka.

two things are priority in karakansh. we will go step by step. Okay? Clear? Check Rāhu, in which is Rāhu placed. Then see the kāraka of that house, if that kāraka goes to 12th house, you should do namashkar to Śrī Viṣṇu in the avatar related to that Graha.

Student: what if shubh graha are in Lagna

Guruji: then there is no problem. But, if papa graha is sitting in Lagna then there is an issue. That graha will try to harm Lagna, will try to weaken the Lagna.

Student: suppose if there is virschik Lagna and both Maṅgala as well as Sūrya are sitting in 12th house. then?

Guruji: Even then Rāma has to be worshipped because the Lagneśa has already gone bad. Fortunately kāraka is sitting in 12th house. It’s very important to take the name of Rāma.

Depends on what the problem is. Suppose in this same case, there is Rāhu sitting in 3rd house. In that case, you should do Avatar Mantra based on Maṅgala related Avatar of Śrī Viṣṇu. Rāhu is the primary problem not the Lagna because if we see from the point of view of ātma, Rāhu is the main problem. Then comes the problem from Maṅgala. And then comes the problem from Śani. SHANI IS QUIET SPIRITUAL, MANGAL IS NOT.

(notes from me: Here Guruji is hinting at the natural malevolence order of grahas: Rāhu as most malefic, Maṅgala is second most malefic, Śani as third most malefic.)

Whenever someone comes to you says ” I am having so much probloem from Śani”. Then you should sit quietly and examine the bhāva placement of Śani. In which is Śani placed. Take the primary kāraka of that house, and start doing the mantra for that kāraka, Śani will be easily pacified. It has to be. Śani can’t sit there after that. If Śani sits, then he will start sending dṛṣṭi to other bhāva, i.e., 3rd and 10th and 7th from it. But if Śani can’t sit properly, he can’t cause such issues of dṛṣṭi etc. So, worship the mantra for the kāraka of the house in which Śani is placed. You should appease the kāraka of that house in which Śani is placed. Okay?

Student: what if Śani himself is the kāraka of the bhāva in which he is sitting?

Guruji: Okay, suppose Śani is sitting in 6th house, which Devta will you worship for this Śani? You have to choose accordingly. But Śani is in 6th aspecting the 12th, maybe you can worship Kurma avatar. Frankly, 6th house is not the place to worship Viṣṇu. 9th house and 12th house are considered to worship Śrī Viṣṇu. Never the 6th house. Because Viṣṇu is fundamentally, Shantakaram (peace giiver), he is definitely Shantakaram. 6th house has no relation with Shanti (peace). here, the principloe of Sattva is taken. 9th ans 12th are naturally owned by Jupiter. Tattva of Jupiter is Akash = Viṣṇu. That is why when planets are in 9th house and 12th house, they take Viṣṇu’s Form.

(notes from me: natural owner of 9th and 12th is Guru. So, these bhāva have sattva. So, Śrī Viṣṇu is devta of Sattva).

Planets which are in 10th house, take the form of Gaṇeśa.

Planets which are in 6th house or the 8th house, or 12th house, take the form of Rudra.

This is based upon kārakas.

You might remember that in my Delhi-Conference, I made a chart of these kārakas, and discussed all this. We also took houses.

4th house is for Devi.

2nd, 4th and 7th are for Devi.

Student: and Maṅgala is the kāraka of only 3rd house?

Guruji: Yes, only 3rd house

Student: What is the mantra for Narsimha Deva?

Guruji: The mantra for Narsimha Deva is:

ॐ क्ष्रौं नमो भगवते नृसिंहाय

Oṃ Kṣrauṃ Namo Bhagavate Nṛsiṃhāya

Kṣrauṃ is the viṣa-hara mantra.
Jaya Jaya Śrī Nṛsiṃha is the mantra for yuddha. But why do you need that? Who do you want to beat? Fighting is bad. Do:
Oṃ Kṣrauṃ Namo Bhagavate Nṛsiṃhāya
The desire for yuddha is a poison. You should work to remove that poison. Yuddha happens when there is poison in your heart. The problem will be solved if you remove that poison.
Oṃ Kṣrauṃ Namo Bhagavate Nṛsiṃhāya
This is the mantra from the Agni Purāṇa. The Agni Purāṇa has given this beautiful mantra and many more like this.
Oṃ Kṣrauṃ Namo Bhagavate Nṛsiṃhāya
Namo is never used as a suffix at the end of this mantra. 108 is enough.
Student: Can we do this if there is any type of pāpa graha in the 3rd house?
Guruji: Surely. Be it any pāpa graha in the 3rd house, you do this and you will see the results, especially if Śani is there.
Student: (inaudible)
Guruji: In a way, Maṅgala is the kāraka of the house in which Śani is placed, and vice versa. You pacify Śani and nothing will happen. But if you pacify Maṅgala, Śani will be pacified. This was about kāraka parivartana.

Student: My Maṅgala is in 4th house, while Śani is in 3rd house. The daśā of Śani is running.

Guruji: So, you also should do this mantra. (Maṅgala is kāraka of bhāva in which Śani is placed, and Śani in 3rd house is sometimes malefic because the person disrespects 5th house and 9th house because there is dṛṣṭi of Śani on these two houses).

2nd Student: So, I can do this also?

Guruji: Yes definitely.

3rd student: everybody here has Śani in 3rd house? I also have Śani in 3rd house

Guruji: But it is good for you. But Maṅgala is very favorable for you because it is the 10th Lord in the 3rd house. 10th Lord in 3rd house makes one a very good surgeon. Why? Because the kāraka of 3rd house is Maṅgala.

4th student: What about 10th house lord in 6th house?

Guruji: Then check Saturn. (Saturn is kāraka of 6th house).

Guruji: Saturn means discipline

Student: and hard work, much hard work..

Guruji: Yes, lot of hard work.

Student: (inaudible)

Guruji: Depends on the Caturthāṃśa, in whichCaturthāṃśa is it? first/second/third/fourth? You have to see the caturthāṃśa to check what is the actual problem. There are four caturthāṃśa in 6th house. D4. First caturthāṃśa is in 6th house itself, then you can say that okay, the native is laborious. 2nd caturthāṃśa comes in 9th house, so, it can be a teacher’s chart also. 3rd caturthāṃśa is mapping into 12th house of Rāśi chart, like this.. the native is doing labor but in which matter/direction is the native doing labor? Okay, the native is hard working but in which aspect of life or direction? In that direction only, the gains will happen. A person can be laborious in many different things, like, he may be good in dealing with patients and general madicine (12th house), such things.

Student: What is Caturthāṃśa?

Guruji: We divide a rāśi in four houses. And, there are four Brahmacārī Sages in these four portions. The four sons of Brahma, they did not marry and carried on in the direction of their life mission / karma yoga. So, when you look into D4, there is one more meaning of D4, is that, in which karma is your Mind going to natural delve deep into. These four sages were so delved deep into their life mission that they forgot about marriage etc. So, you have to see in which occupation is the Mind going into. Every graha has a D4 placement, you have to match that or map that back onto the Rāśi chart, the house that it maps into shows the occupation of Mind.

Student: His, is into general medicine and neuro medicine, neurourgery.

Guruji: not only that, Maṅgala will also be favorable. Mars rules nerves. Mercury damages nerves.

Student: (a part is inaudible) for Vāta it is Śani, whenever a someone differs from paralysis, or other vāta roga, in all those, Śani causes the main issues. Śani is involved in paralysis disease.

Guruji: Correct. Absolutely correct. That’s why paralysis is called Kaśyapa Doṣa. That is a Dosha of Sūrya and Śani. Listen! How does Śani become so bad? What is the,main problem in paralysis, is it muscles or is it nerves? So, who is the kāraka of nerves? Maṅgala.

Student: does Maṅgala rules nerves or does he rule muscles?

Guruji: Nerve is Maṅgala. Nerves are ruled by Maṅgala. The exact Sanskrit used by Parāśara for this is, what is that Sanskrit word for nerves used by Parāśara?

Student: peśī is muscles, rules by Śani and tissue are ruled by Maṅgala.

Guruji: No. All these ayurvedacxharyas have taken birth in Kali Yuga, and the terminology used by them is from Kali Yuga. You may listen to them. But the exact word that is used by Parāśara for Maṅgala, is Majja. Majjā Dhātu is used for what is inside the bones. The Bone Marrow!

Student: but the bone marrow has nothing to do with the nerves.

Gurvi Sarbani Rath: (inaudible)

Guruji: if so many people will speak, Sarbani, no one will be able to listen. We have to speak one by one. The basic point that you are talking about is the Majjā Dhātu. Majjā Dhātu is not just the bone marrow. Bone Marrow is the root for it’s creation. But it is all the tissues of the body. Even the blood that we have, is a tissue; but it does take blood into account. Majjā Dhātu is basically, the root, that is bone marrow. The ligaments, and the joints between the muscles, and the bone, that is also Majjā Dhātu. But the worker is the Muscle, and that is Saturn. If you see the exact Sanskrit, it is very clearly mentioned. The worker, the labor of the Body (Śarīra), is Śani. The laborer is Śani, not Maṅgala. Maṅgala puts Śani to work. Maṅgala doesn’t work himself. He puts Śani to work.

Student: No, Śani puts Maṅgala to work.

Guruji: How? How can servant put the owner to work?

Student: The nerve signal comes in nerves and then muscles work.

Guruji: Listen! Normally Boss puts servant to work or does the servant put the Boss to work?

Student: Servant is put to work by the Boss. Boss is Maṅgala.

Guruji: So, you should think calmly, who is the worker, who is the laborer? Śani is the laborer. Which part of your body works? Muscles work. Muscles must have energy stored in them to do work? And, Muscle is ruled by Saturn. Just go to home and see that śloka of Parāśara, take that Sanskrit word, do a search of the dictionary, see for yourself.

Gurvi Sarbani Rath: someone pointed out to me that in old Sanskrit majja meant tissue but nowadays, it means Bone Marrow. So, the original meaning of the word Majja, is, tissues.

Guruji: he pointed out to you that he got his information from Narasimha, but Narasimha got his information from our discussion.

Gurvi Sarbani Rath: and we had a huge discussion about this in Varāhamihira

Guruji: The problem was, you know, we had certain things between us, then we don’t tell it to the public, because we know that if we tell it to the public, they will fight.

Gurvi Sarbani Ji: we had a huge discussion in Varāhamihira

Guruji: Yes, you can see this in the archives. Narasimha and I has a deep discussion. What a boy like Narasimha would have felt, an IIT passout computer master, when he got to know that Mercury doesn’t rule nerves, he was flabbergasted. Because he had always thought that he had strong nerves because he had strong Mercury because Mercury was his Lagna Lord. I said, “yes, you have strong nerves because of Mercury being the Lagna Lord, but not because he rules Nerves. He does not rule Nerves. Because Mercury is the Lagna Lord, he will not damage anything that is for you. And, that is the reason you have strong nerves”. The person having Mercury as Randhreśa, Ṣaṣṭheśa, or being malefic, then Mercury will hit. When Mercury hits, where would he hit? He will hit on Maṅgala. (Mercury and Maṅgala are sworn enemies of each other). Mercury will first damage the nerves. The area where the disease will show, is that (ruled by Maṅgala). You see, for example, Skin Diseases. A dictum says: Moon in the fourth under affliction, gives skin disease. Moon let us say, with Ketu in the fourth, gives skin disease. Why? Rāhu will surely give skin disease, why? Why does the Nodal Affliction give skin disease? Student: (inaudible)

Guruji: Rāhu hates Mercury.

Student: Ketu is poison?

Guruji: No. Gulika is poison. Ketu is not Poison. If there is poison in grahas, it is in Rāhu. Ketu does not have poison. Ketu is mistake. But Ketu’s poison can be very terrible. For example, the Human being is a very poisonous creature. Think about it. If Human bites anyone, the person will die. We are very poisonous. So, please you should read that Parāśara’s śloka from Chapter 3, in which all this is given. Please go through the basics, once again. It is never too late. The book I was reading recently, wrote, the sun rules this and that etc etc. I go through every śloka. I pick up every book and I go through all the śloka. All the beginner’s shlokas. You may think it is boring. But, that is not boring. It will refresh your memory, you will become more clear about certain things, and you will understand better. I always thought, “if Sūrya is the ruler of Bones, then, why do they break in Śani daśā? And, if Budha rules nerves, then why do nerve-disease happen in daśā of Budha? If Sūrya is ruler of Bones then the bones should break in Sūrya-daśā, and if Budha rules Nerves, then nerve-disease should happen in Budha-daśā. It must be, if you have a principle, the principle should be the same. It not like, you say one thing here and another thing there, that’s not a principle. So, the basic point is, If Sūrya rules bones, then the grahas which are the enemies of Sūrya, will break Bones. Chandra rules Blood, so, the enemies of Chandra will start destroying the blood, and thus, give skin disease because skin-disease happen from impurities of Blood.

Student: Ketu and Chandra

Guruji: because Ketu is with Chandra, so, impurities of Blood give skin disease. If you see clearly, what is the principle beneath, the underlying reason. Maṅgala is Majjā Dhātu, is the entire defense mechanism of the Body. If Maṅgala is bad, then the whole defense mechanism of body is hit. There are two sworn enemies of Maṅgala, one is Budha, another is Śukra. Two major disease come from the failure of defense mechanism of the body: One is Cancer which comes from Budha; Another is AIDS etc, which come due to Śukra. You can see for yourself. Your defense mechanism has failed, is perceiving enemy as a friend. Mercury will certainly afflict intelligence of the Defence Mechanism, and that causes cancer. The Moha of Śukra also kills the defense mechanism of Maṅgala. A planet will never destroy what he rules. He will always value what he rules. Śani values Iron. Bṛhaspati values Svarṇa (Gold). Every graha protects his own. They are kārakas for that, and symbolize that. Kāraka, in sanskrit, means, one who does for it. Kāraka means the doer, one who does. So, please keep this in the mind, that the Kārakas are the most important because they are the doer. The Lord of a house, may do or maynot do. But, a kāraka will certainly do his Duty. Are we clear on that?

Student (Verma Ji, neurosurgeon): My understanding is that there are two things: the structure of the nerves and the function of the nerves. The function of the nerves is independent of the structure on which it acts. The function depends on certain liquid principles, (incomprehensible)

Guruji: Leave such a complicated thing. take the example of a house. Big house small house, etc etc. A house can be decorated differently by different users. But the basic house structure stays the same. 4th house. So, the kāraka for the 4th is not going to change, the kāraka for the 4th house is still the Moon. The Gṛha Kāraka will still be Ketu. Maṅgala is Bhumi Kāraka (kāraka for land). Without Land, you cannot have gṛha(house). Gods can have, they can have gṛha in the sky, but we cannot. We need Maṅgala to build Gṛha, Ketu. But in the 4th house, the main kāraka is Chandra, but we further subdivide into 9 divisions. Then we take one of them, and sub-subdivide into 9 divisions again. We have this system. you take one kāraka, and break it into 9 divisions, 9 primary types. Actually eight are done, not 9. That’s why there is that Eight-petaled lotus. Suppose a kāraka Ketu is taken, you put Ketu in centre, and put eight grahas on eight petals. Then you can further take one graha among the petal and make eight petal around it. It’s wheels and wheels, all depends on the 1st one. What we are talking about, is the first one.

Student (Verma Ji, neurosurgeon): a structure is must, but a single nerve also has a structure.

Guruji: That is because of Ketu. Ketu is Auto-programming. Ketu and Rāhu are very important, Ketu is a co-worker with Mars. Ketu is that part of the nerve, which is trained automatically over the years. It is anything but training. For example, martial arts trained fighters have different reflexes than the common people who are not trained in martial arts. Everything requires training. When mars gets perfect training, he becomes Ketu. Then he does not have to think, it becomes Automatic. That’s why Ketu doesn’t need Head, whereas Maṅgala needs Head. Maṅgala does everything after thinking, but Ketu does without thinking. First when you talk of nerves and the functioning of Nerves, we take reactions and break them into two groups, of, automatic reactions (trained reactions) and non-trained reactions.

Student: there are controlled nerves and uncontrolled nerves. Myelinated and non-Myelinated.

Guruji: Chemicals that are used, are ruled by Venus. Fluids that are used, are ruled by Moon. Whether the intelligence function is working or not, sometimes the nerves are alright, but still the intelligence does not work, it means Jupiter has failed somewhere. Somebody who understands Medical Astrology, and understands the principles of both Jyotiṣa and Medicine, should go into much depth. For example, the medical terms that you were using, each one of them will have a graha associated. So, you have to make the whole structure of the nerves. Jyotiṣa-structure of the nerves. How can you do hat? If you know how to make wheels and wheels.

Student: Actually he is saying that the structure is parallel, there is mars-component and there are then other components

Guruji: really? how can it be parallel? What does it do? What does the nerve do?

Student: Communicate.

Guruji: Why does it communicate? Why do we need communication?

Student: For example, to pick up the cup

Guruji: Why do we need to pick up the cup?

Student: because… (guruji interrupted)

Guruji: Wait wait wait! Either you can do, then I should go.

Students: no, no.. please….

Guruji: Why do we need to pick up the cup? It tells you to pick up the cup, who is the Boss? Mars is the General. He passes the command, “Pick up the cup!”.

Students: No. Nerves does not operate just to the tissue, they operate in a different manner, and doesn’t even need tissue to operate.

Guruji: For example, if somebody has AIDS, where does Mars come into the picture? Student: AIDS has nothing to do with the nerves.

Guruji: We are just now talking about the Mars and the defence mechanism. We are talking of the Mars and the defence mechanism. Nine planets are given alloted nine different things, and to say that other things in body doesn’t have a Kāraka Graha, that’s no logic at all. What is the graha told by Parāśara for pancreas? Has he told? No. Then how will you study pancreas? You have to study the thing in some way, right? You have to see the functioning of the thing. What does it do? Kidney, for example. Which graha will signify Kidneys?

Student: Venus

Guruji: Why? What is the function of kidneys?

Student: to purify things

Guruji: So, it’s the department of Śani, and not of Śukra? That’s why the exaltation of Śani happens in Tulā, toxins are removed by Kidneys, i.e., Tulā. That’s why Śani gets exalted there. Likewise, you cannot take graha for organ, you have to focus on the function of the organ. And, the position of organ will be signified by a Rāśi, and the Lord of that Rāśi will tell what the strength in that organ. Whether the function is being done correctly or not, is signified by the kāraka of that function. The more you go and discover like this, see, what I am trying to say is that We have only got one main kāraka and eight around it. Don’t forget the Main kāraka, and you take eight around it, and you keep expanding depending upon how you allocate the functions. My point is that, you should not forget the Main Kāraka. I have heard many people say, “Maṅgala is blood”. Blood is red, and Maṅgala is red, so Maṅgala is blood? No. I should not hear such things from you, then how can we learn Jyotiṣa? Unless you really go into medical astrology, you don’t need it. Brandon is also like you, he wants separate kāraka for every organ. That is impossible. Which book has that? He has to work, so he is working.

But one thing is clear, something signified by a graha is never killed that graha. The enemy of this graha destroys.

Similarly, K N Rao Ji said one beautiful thing in his writings: He has observed Śukra and Rāhu for many years, he writes: “there is no friendship between Śukra and Rāhu, they are sworn enemies of each other”. I thought, ” it is worth thinking about”. what do you think? Exaltation of Śukra is in house of Bṛhaspati, Śukra needs to be pure and near to Guru to be exalted. And in every form, the more he goes toward Rāhu, he becomes worse and worse. That’s why, Kidney are in Rāśi of Śukra, and Śani gets exalted there, but it is destroyed by Stones of Rāhu. Stone is Rāhu. Who removes Stone? Bṛhaspati can remove Stones of kidney. So, see nowadays, sound techniques have come to remove Kidney Stones. (Bṛhaspati = sound). It is an interesting, very interesting study. I think we will close this for today.

AUDIO IS COMPLETE. Oṃ.