So, you all want to Vivāha today, Marriage. Where is the Moon today?
Student: Tulā
Guruji: It’s in Tulā? You see that? natural. Class should be natural. Wherever the Moon is, do the class accordingly. Everybody will be focused on that. So, the best way to choose a class is to go naturally. See where the Moon is, and accordingly do the class. That is what people will want to know. They will ask accordingly, it will happen. More so because this is Atri-SJC. Atri ṛṣi is of Moon’s father. So, Vivāha. Firstly, what is marriage? If we can define marriage, then only we can make a prediction. Right? Marriage in the physical terms, is the coming together or the yoking, which is the exact term. a man and a woman are yoked together, like bulls are yoked together to plow the land. This is the physical meaning of Vivāha. This one concept, one picture in your mind will clarify everything. That husband and wife are coming together to plow the land. By plowing the land, they are sowing the seeds. From the seeds, will come the fruits. These fruits, is the child, which will come from the marriage, is their future. Child is their everything, is the fruit of marriage. Both, husband and wife have to pull the plow, both have to pull, it is not one. And, both have to pull the plow equally, put in equal efforts. So, you understand what is the responsibility? It is a very big responsibility. People say “matching of horoscopes”. What is matching of horoscopes? Matching of horoscopes is to find the right bull and the right cow, so that they can work together. They can pull the plow together. If one is higher and one is lower, then the plow will tilt on one side. So, many things you have to match. Yoking of two people. One is the physical yoking. Second is, spiritual yoking. Dharma, Artha, Kāma, Mokṣa. These are the four ayana of dharma, will they work together towards the four? Marriage is not only for Artha, not only for wealth. It is for Dharma, Artha, Kāma, Mokṣa.
So, dharma, what is dharma of Vivāha? So, you have to first define, what we are going to see. is it not? So, what is the dharma of Vivāha? Why are you marrying?
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Even animals can do that. Why do you need to marry for that? What is the reason?
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: For the Pitṛ Ṛṇa. Correct word. You have a father, he has a name. Dogs don’t have name, and animals don’t have names. When you go to the zoo and you see a tiger, you gave that tiger a name, but when the tiger.. how many of you know the name of mother and father of the tiger. But it is very important in human beings. The difference between animals and humans is the Pitṛ Ṛṇa. Pitṛ Ṛṇa is there for human beings. Because of the Pitṛ Ṛṇa, you are given the responsibility of carrying on the lineage of the ṛṣis. When you are having the responsibility of carrying on the lineage of Pitṛ. Pitṛ don’t just mean you parents, ṛṣis are also the pitṛ. All the ṛṣis are there. Pitṛ is not just the father. Father is the last one. It is the forefathers, starting from the ṛṣis. If you keep going like this, you will go to the saptarṣis. Okay? So, for that debt, you are getting married. So that you redeem yourself of that debt. You are given a human body and a social life. To redeem yourself of that debt, you are getting married. What happens if you don’t marry? What will happen to the rna?
Student: Carry forwards
Guruji: It means the people who become sādhus, they cannot get mokṣa? No. This is an argument. If you say, if you become a Sādhu, you will not get mokṣa, because the pitṛ ṛṇa is there, what do you do? Who is having the power to free you from the Pitṛ Ṛṇa? The guru. The Guru has the power to free you from the pitṛ ṛṇa. Pitṛ Ṛṇa comes from the 9th house, from the ṛṣis. And, the guru is the only one who can free you from the pitṛ ṛṇa. If he does not free you from the pitṛ ṛṇa, you cannot get mokṣa. So, before you take any Dīkṣā Mantra for Mukti, before you take a Dīkṣā Guru, you have to make a personal assessment, as to whether this guru has got the capability of freeing you from the pitṛ ṛṇa. You have to look for nimittas, like, like astrologers you have to look for nimittas. You will see nimittas of deaths, or you will see nimittas of other things, you will get nimittas of your forefather, grandfather, great-grandfather etc. Some or the other nimittas you will definitely get. That is good. When you get all those nimittas, those are all positive nimittas. That confirms, that yes, you are now going to get dīkṣā, by which all those rna, will be cleared. To see death; you may some news of the death, you have gone…. Like I was gone to take on some mantra, I got some information that I cannot meet the person because somebody died. It is the first correct nimitta, that this is the correct place. Whatever doubts are there in your head, should vanish then and there. Because the moment you get death. Death is what, pitṛ. It gives all the nimittas of the Pitṛ Ṛṇa. If you get the nimitta of the pitṛ ṛṇa, that means that the dīkṣā guru is the correct dīkṣā guru. Okay? Now, Indications:
Omens. For examples, I went to Chennai. In Chennai, I went to visit some temple with a friend of mine. He was jyotish guru over there. Suddenly, a swami looks at me and says, “your grandfather was a great Ṛṣi you know, he was like a ṛṣi only, and he was this, this, this, this……”. He started talking about my grandfather suddenly. What is that? Is that not a nimitta? Then he says, “you know, you need to worship the.. do a special pūjā for your grandfather and you need to do that.. you know “guru pādukā”, my guru’s pādukās are there, they are made of silver, and you take them and you do the worship of the pādukā”. I asked, “whose pādukā are these”? He said, “these are the Pādukā of the previous old Śaṅkarācārya of “Jyotir Math””. Now, where is Jyotir Math? It is one of the four Śaṅkarācārya pīṭhas. So, the Pādukās of the Jyotir Math of the Guru are with him. That is his guru. That means he was, though he is from Chennai, though he is settled in Chennai, Swami Ji, his guru pādukā are from Jyotir Math. So, then I did the worship of the Pādukās, because the Nimittas were clear. And I knew I am going to some place. You see, the nimittas were so clear. You WILL get nimittas. If you are being jyotishis, you will get nimittas. Because you can see what others cannot see. Others will not even realize that these are nimittas. Alright? So, that means the guru has the power to remove your pitṛ ṛṇa. What is the responsibility of the pitṛ ṛṇa? When does pitṛ ṛṇa go? When you have a son.
Now you will say Sanjay, you are biased. Am I biased, or am I not biased? Tell me.
Student: Not biased.
Guruji: I am right. is it? So, tell me why am I not biased and why am I biased? Why does pitṛ ṛṇa not go with the birth of a daughter.
Student: because the gotra will change
Guruji: The gotra will change. Yes. Gotra will change. So, the gotra is not continuing. So, the pitṛ ṛṇa is not completed.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Can the Lady perform the last saṁskāras? Can she do it or she cannot do it? I want to hear this. You have something to say?
Student: (Not clear)
Guruji: Right. in many communities they do it. Saraswati Ma used to recite the Vedas. Other than that, how can you have the Gāyatrī?
Gurvi Ji: I mean why she cannot do it? She is equally qualified as brother to do the last rites.
Guruji: She cannot do it because she has not taken the sacred thread. According to the Vedas, and my understanding of the Vedas. The ladies used to wear the sacred thread and they used to wear the sacred thread from the left side, and down. The men used to wear the sacred thread like this, like we have worn it, you can see this Janeu over here. It comes like this. Women wear the sacred thread like this. There used to be a time, when the women used to wear. Every Hindu used to wear the sacred thread. It is not restricted only to the Brahmins. It is wrong. And, they used to take dīkṣā for the recitation of the Gāyatrī mantras. So, if you have taken dīkṣā for the Gāyatrī mantra, then only you can light the.. do the Piṇḍas. Simply by being born as a male, doesn’t mean you are a male. Am I being understood. When you talk of pitṛ ṛṇa, let us talk of our dharma. What does our dharma require? Our dharma requires that we take the sacred thread, that we maintain the sacred thread through the Gāyatrī mantra and that we offer oblations to our pitṛs. To the ṛṣis and to our forefathers. And, the forefathers include fore-mothers. It’s not just fathers, everybody. When we use the word forefathers, it is both male and female. Am I clear on this? So, to say that the pitṛ ṛṇa, will go away simply because a boy is born, is our bias. It is a modern day bias. Am I clear? If you are having a boy who is not going to keep the sacred thread, who will not recite the Gāyatrī mantra, from where will the pitṛ ṛṇa go away? It is better to have a girl, who will at least do the Gāyatrī mantra. Am I clear on that? So we establish that the first foundation of marriage was to have a progeny who will perform the Gāyatrī mantra, thereby we will get freed. Because one-fourth of the Gāyatrī mantra will go to the forefathers. When you do 108, 27 mantras go to forefathers, automatically. That rna automatically gets deducted. that’s one pada of the Gāyatrī. Okay? Clear? Now, so, that is one of the purpose of the marriage.
So, now, for this purpose, what do you do, and what kind of matching will you do in a horoscope? Gotra matching. And all the other matching which is associated with Dharma, fulfillment of duties, dharma, I am defining as fulfillment of duties. It is not spirituality, there is nothing spiritual about it. You do Gāyatrī mantra and offer water to pitṛ, that will not do your spiritual enlightenment. There is no connection, they are separate issues, one is dharma, and one is Mokṣa. they are separate things. Simply because you are following dharma, does not mean you will get Mokṣa. Clear? they are separate ayanas completely. people say “he is very dharmic, he will get Mukti”. Dharma and Mukti do not have any connection. They are separate ayanas completely, separate directions. So, when we do horoscope matching, one of the important matching is the dharma-matching. When will a spouse be very fulfilling in the matters of dharma? When the spouse and you have sama-saptaka lagna, the lagna are sama-saptaka. Okay. That means if the boy’s lagna is Meṣa and girl’s lagna is Tulā, it is?
Student: Sama-saptaka
Guruji: How do you say it is sama-saptaka? They are enemies. Maṅgala and Śukra are not enemies? they are? Or not? If one is Siṁha and let us say the other is Kumbha, are they sama-saptaka? No. If it is Karka and if it is Makara? No. Then? What is the meaning of sama-saptaka? You are stuck. Suppose wife has the lagna in Tulā, and husband has it in Meṣa, is it sama-saptaka? That is saptaka. But why do you say sama-saptaka? Sama means friendly. No? The word used is sama. What is meaning of the word, sama? Till now, all you were using sama-saptaka, without knowing what it is. Sama means sambandha, graha-sambandha. That means, first thing you have to do in a horoscope, is to make the graha sambandha chakra. Do you know how to make graha sambandha chakra? Graha sambandha chakra is a very simple chakra which is make to see the relationship the graha are having with other planets. Right?First, you take a graha,a nd you find out who are his natural friend and natural enemies. Who are the natural friend for Sūrya? How will you find out who are the natural friends. You have to find out which is the mūlatrikoṇa of Sūrya. Which is the mūlatrikoṇa of Sūrya?
Student: Siṁha
Guruji: are you sure, it is not aries??
Students: yes
Guruji: Okay. It is Leo. I tend to question you know. Because I want you to be very sure so as no doubt is there. Okay, then how will you see? Who are Sūrya’s friends?
Student: lords of 2nd, 4th, 8th..
Guruji: 2nd? 3rd? 4th? No.
Student: Not 3rd
Guruji: 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th 9th, 10th and 12th. So, Let us see, 2nd. 2nd lord is Budha, so, Budha is friend of Sūrya? Good. Then after that? Maṅgala? lord of 4th? Ketu is lord of 4th or not?
Student: Yes
Guruji: Yes. Yes, Ketu is the friend of Sūrya. Please make a note. I knew you will skip this point.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Right. It’s a very important friend, 4th house. We are talking of sambandha today. What Vivāha really? If the sambandha between husband and wife is not good, marriage will fail and will work if sambandha is good. We must know what is sambandha. 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 12th, they are very important houses. So, from now you must keep in mind, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 12th are friendly houses. Six houses, half the zodiac is friendly and half the zodiac is unfriendly. 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th, and 12th;
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: that will also be very friendly. The lord of the sign of the exaltation is extremely friendly. So, Mars is a friend, Ketu is a friend, Budha is a friend, guru is a very good friend because he is the lord of the 5th and the 8th houses. Very good friend. Sūrya’s greatest friend is Bṛhaspati. 9th house is again Maṅgala. House of exaltation is again Maṅgala, very good friend. Then 12th, its Chandra. So, these are the friends of Sūrya. Then what are his enemies? Lord of the 3rd, Śukra, 6th, Śani, 7th Śani, so Śani becomes deadly enemy, he is owning two enemy houses. You see, how much enmity is there, is he just an enemy or a deadly enemy? This you also have to see. The deadly enemy for example, is the lord of 6th and 7th. Right? Then Śukra is 3rd and 10th, another deadly enemy. Budha is lord of 11th, but he is also lord of 2nd. So, Budha is neutral. Do you see? Lord of 2nd as well as 11th, so, from Kanyā point of view, he is supporting Sūrya, but Mithuna, he is not supporting Sūrya. That also must be kept in mind. Kanyā is a supporter of Sūrya, is a supporter of Dharma. Mithuna, is not a supporter of Sūrya, is not a supporter of Dharma. Accordingly, the lagna of people will either support Sūrya, or will not support Sūrya. Very clear. if I am born in Mīna lagna, I will support Sūrya. If I am born in Mithuna lagna, I will not support Sūrya. That is the tendency. Alright? Human being has this nature. Meṣa lagna is strong supporter of Sūrya, why? Because it is exaltation of Sūrya. you see my point? Depending upon the lagna of the person also, this knowledge can be used, that you are supporting or you are not supporting. This is very important in political charts. Okay? Now. What happens now. What about Rāhu, is he supporter or not? No. How unfortunate. He has gone to the other side, I thought Rāhu should have at least supported Sūrya. Being the lord of Kumbha, he has gone to the other side. Now, when we are talking about somebody born in Siṁha Lagna, let us say, his wife is born in Kumbha lagna, how are they going to be sama-saptaka. In that case, in that person’s horoscope, this is natural, Śani is a deadly enemy of Sūrya, it’s a natural thing. But, if Śani is placed in the house, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 10th, 11th, 12th from Sūrya, surrounding the first house from Sūrya, then the relationship between Sūrya and Śani has become Sama. Friendly. That means he has become friendly. Now, what is the natural enemy? Enemy plus friendly, we are getting neutral or sama. So, when we use the word, sama-saptaka, you have to check the horoscope, is there possibility of sama-saptaka. If there is no possibility of sama-saptaka, and you end up marrying such a person, you will be in a mess. Enmity will arise after some time.
Student: lagna or where the sun is placed?
Guruji: Lagna, I have given example. Because of Siṁha lagna, I was giving this example.
Gurvi Ji: (not clear)
Guruji: there is a paper, called sambandha-paper. There, I have explained it, why it is so. It is called: where I am sitting, the first house is supposed to be my throne. People in 10th, 11th and 12th are helping me to reach my throne. People in 2nd, 3rd, and 4th, are those who are preventing me from falling from the throne. People I cannot share the throne with anybody, you know. Whenever we have got deputy Prime Minister scenario. Have you heard in India, Deputy Prime Minister? Whenever there was a deputy Prime Minister, that party got destroyed. You take it from me, whenever there was a deputy Prime Minister, it has hurt the party. You take Janata Dal, they made Deputy Prime Minister, what happened to that Janata Dal? BJP also made deputy Prime Minister, what happened to BJP after that? You see my point? In a throne, there is not enough space for two people to sit, when two people sit, they will squeeze each other 24 hours.
So, that throne is gone. So, the planet sitting in that 1st house, are enemies actually. You are 24 hours considering, “I hope he has not become more powerful than me”. You have forgotten your own enemies and you are after your own people. So, deputy Prime Minister formula will never work. You cannot share the Prime Ministership with anybody else. It has to be one person.
Student: Saturn’s placement with the Sun in the Kumbha lagna
Guruji: In the Siṁha lagna’s chart. And even in Kumbha lagna’s chart, you have to see sun’s placement from Saturn.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: From the Sun? The relationship between these two planets is very important. Graha sambandha. What is the relationship between these two grahas? Is it sama or is it inimical? Clear? Now.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Saptaka means 7th house. That means the other person is belonging to the 7th house lagna. Saptaka is considered extremely auspicious for yoking. It is called balancing. That’s why the 7th house of natural zodiac is called Tulā, the balance. That’s why it is called Tulā, it balances. Life is not complete without the better half. It is very empty. There is no balance in life. It is an unbalanced horoscope. How much alone a person can live? How much will you pull that yoke. You can try, you take one bullock and try to make him pull that yoke. He cannot pull. The moment you put the second one, the effort will be four times, ten times more. That is the meaning of the 7th house. That is why 7th house is called dvāra. The door. The doors of heaven will open up for you. Right? So, that is the reason why Marriage is so important. So, dharma, understood? The fruit of dharma was child. Why? Because it is in trines, 1-5-9. So, you are marrying because you want the fruits of dharma. Now, Lābha, the 11th house. That you will get from dharma. If you follow dharma, the labha you will get, is a good marriage. If you do not follow dharma, and if for some reason, dharma has fallen; you will suffer that in your marriage. It is in 11th from the 9th. 7th house, which is the house of the marriage, is in 11th from the 9th house. If dharma is strong, marriage will survive. If dharma becomes weak, the marriage will go. What is the definition of dharma? Definition of dharma is the father, and the pitṛ. The pitṛ show their blessing either through the father or through the guru; or they will show their anger through the father or through the guru. That is why in marriage, to enjoy the fruits of marriage, blessings of father and the gurus are very important. Very very important. It is crucial to get their blessings. If the father is not going to support a marriage, that marriage will invariably break.
Student: 7th is 11th from the 9th house. Then how can Marriage be the fruit of the 9th house.
Guruji: It is a dharma. When you follow dharma, the fruit or the blessing that you get, the lābha that you get is a balanced life, is a fulfilled life. The life is fulfilled. It is very balanced. The essence of dharma, you cannot say that you are following dharma if you are not married. Sadhus do not follow dharma as such. They follow mokṣa. Mokṣa is 12th house not 7th house. Dharma requires that you marry to fulfill the deeds of the pitṛ. Mokṣa does not require that. If you don’t marry you will not get mokṣa, there is no such rule like that. Mukti has no relation with it, But there is something that we will talk about later. Something when we talk about slightly advanced concepts. Okay, so, dharma aspect is very clear now.
Artha: What is the role of Artha in Marriage? How many of you dream that you want to marry a beggar? Nobody wants to marry. Everybody marries… shadi.com; half the girls in America are writing that if you don’t have bank balance of 200,000$, don’t even talk to me. Don’t send mail, if you don’t have 200,000$ in bank balance. What is this? What role does artha have in marriage?
I ask this to many people. But everybody invariably says… that Dr. Pearl said what, I started questioning him, “what do you mean”. He said “let me now finish my MS, and then I will… I asked, “and then, what”. Then you will do MD after MS. MD in minimum. After MD, you will do specialization and then another three years. Then you will want to do another specialization, another five six years. You get married at 65. Why are you marrying now? If you are linking all your education, “first I will finish my education and then marry”. Then that girl would have to wait the rest of the life to get married to you. It is, “why are you linking, there is no linkage”. Why are human beings do this? Is there a linkage or there is no linkage?
Gurvi Ji: There is linkage because that’s 11th from dharma, so that also indicated desire.
Guruji: Artha is 10th house.
Gurvi Ji: (unclear)
Guruji: That is Kāma Trikoṇa. 10th house, what link does 10th house have with the 7th house? It has. But I want to hear the link.
Gurvi Ji: (not clear)
Student: It is 10th from 10th.
Guruji: 10th from 10th.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: What does that Mean?
Student: mating place.
Guruji: correct. Mating place. Sukha sthāna. That is why it is called Makara. Have you heard of the word, Pañcha Makāra?
Student: Yes
Guruji: I do not want to describe it, you can read it on your own. Read what is the meaning of the word, Pañcha Makāra, yourself. The word Makara has to do with the mating place, fourth from the 7th. 4th house is the place where you do something. 7th house is mating. 4th from 7th is the place where you mate. 6th house is fighting, and 4th from 6th is 9th house. 9th house is the place of fighting. That is why Kurukshetra is also called Dharmakshetra. Right? Sagittarius, indicates temples as well as battle fields. 4th from the 6th, is the sthāna, is 9th house. What is 8th house? Place of delivery of children. Why? From the 5th, it is 4th. Delivery place for children. That is where they will come from. What is 11th house? Place of the 8th house? What is 8th house? What is the physical thing that you do with the 8th house, very important activity you do everyday. 8th house is what?
Student: cleaning the bowels.
Guruji: Cleaning the bowels. 8th house is anus, cleaning the bowels. So, which is 4th from the 8th? 11th house, Kumbha Rāśi. So, Kumbha Rāśi is your toilet, if I can use that word.
Student: restroom
Guruji: The British concept of a restroom, the American concept of a restroom, and the Indian concept of a restroom is different. Why Americans rest in the toilet, I do not know. It is a toilet. Kumbha Rāśi is toilet, 11th house is toilet. 6th to the 6th, is 11th house, he who removes or cleanses the stomach, who frees the stomach from the tension. You are seeing the linkages that I am making? I am building the linkages in your mind. 6th to the 6th is 11th, which is 4th from the 8th. The pressure is from 6th house to the 8th house, from the stomach till the anus. There is a pressure built up overnight. That pressure is relieved by 11th house. So, people who have Ātmakāraka in the 11th house, will find soul level pleasure to go to toilet. So, all astrologers are there. 8th house is also the house of secret study, secret knowledge. It is a secret house, occult knowledge. So, where you will go to study it? 4th is the house of Vidyā, place where you will go. So, the place where you will go to get that Vidyā, is 4th from the 8th, 11th house. So, when Ātmakāraka is in the 11th house, the person’s ātma is sitting in the place where he will get the knowledge of the occult. Clear? That is why Ātmakāraka associated with the 11th house, gives jyotish and other occult knowledge.
Student: It’s the natural thing
Guruji: It’s the natural thing. Ātma automatically goes towards it.
Gurvi Ji: (unclear)
Guruji: Vidyā. 4th is the place, it is also the knowledge, learning.
Gurvi Ji: Yeah. But what is the Ātmakāraka connection. If the Ātmakāraka is there then your soul is naturally going towards that place. Okay. 4th house is clear now? Now, 10th house.
10th to the 10th, is the 7th house. It is the bhāvat bhāvam principle. Somebody said this. you said it right? Bhāvat Bhāvam, that means if you do not have work, do not talk about spouse. 10th house is status. Your wife should come based upon your own status. It is not good to marry. See, remember one thing, because of bhāvat bhāvam principle, when your status is to go down, or your status is to go up, your wife will play a very crucial role in that. Your wife or your spouse, plays a very crucial role because of bhāvat bhāvam. A king’s daughter would like to marry a king’s son. Bhavat bhavam. So that they maintain their kingship, the status, 10th house. It is natural for people to do that. So, marriage can cause great changes in the karm bhāva because of the bhāvat bhāvam principle. And, that is called artha. So, unless a person has started earning money, 10th house, he should not marry, because of bhāvat bhāvam. Similarly, 4th house also.
4th house decides, whether you will have a prāsāda, prāsāda you understand right? A big house like this. You will have a kuṭīra, small place. You will have a tree to live. Or, you will have nothing but the open sky on top. A sādhu is one, who chooses to have open sky on top of his head. A rich man is one who chooses a prāsāda. So, 4th to the 4th is the 7th house, so, your marriage will also depend upon your 4th house, your property. That is the reason why, before marrying, people will normally see, does he have some property, does he have something to cling on to? Then, what work does he do? Very often you see, somebody may have a lot of property, but he does nothing. Or a person may have a fantastic career, but he has no property. In such a case, I have seen people giving more preference to 10th house, if the career is there he will build properties in due course of time. But if he has lots of properties and no career, then they don’t want. You see my point? So, 4th house and the 10th house, are having strong impact on the 7th house. How to find out which of this 2 house is having a greater impact in a horoscope.
Student: number of planets
Guruji: No. Not only Number; nature of the planets. Let us take Śukra, which is the mooltrikona of Śukra?
Student: Tulā
Guruji: Tulā. Who are his friends? Let us start with this, who are Śukra’s friends. Start with 2nd house, 2nd house is Mars and Ketu. So, Mars and Ketu have become friends because of scorpio. Then 3rd house Jupiter is enemy. Then, 4th house Śani is friend. 5th house, Śani is very good friend. 6th house Jupiter, terrible enemy. 3rd and 6th. Then Mars is lord of 7th, enemy. So, Mars has become sama. So, naturally Mars is a sama-saptaka with Venus. Whereas, naturally saturn is not sama-saptaka. Means, Leo and Kumbha is not naturally sama-saptaka.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Right. Right, sir. You have to calculate for everyone. Mars and Venus are sama-saptakas. Right? Okay then? 8th house is Venus is the own house, friend. 9th house? Mercury, friend. 10th house? Chandra enemy. 11th house, Sūrya is enemy. 12th house, Mercury is enemy. So, Mercury has actually become natural not friend. Oh, he is friend. 12th house is friend. So, Mercury has become very good friend. Saturn has become very good friend. And, sun and Moon and jupiter are deadly enemies. Ketu is a friend, by the way. Ketu is an important friend of Venus. Interesting, isn’t it? So, Ketu can give marriages. What about Rāhu? He is the lord of aquarius, 5th house. He is a friend. So, both Rāhu and Ketu are friend of Venus. But, in matters of marriage, Ketu supports Venus. Whereas in matters of Marriage, Rāhu will not support Venus. Rāhu supports Venus in love affairs. Especially those that are kept secret love affairs.
Student: Indulgence.
Guruji: Indulgences you can call them. Pancham. Prem Rog. Love becomes a disease.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: So, long as it goes to marriage, because he has to give happiness to Sūrya, 5th house. He is 4th from the 5th. The natural 5th house is ruled by the Sun and the 4th from that is Ketu. Unless he causes the marriage, how will the children come? Right?
Student: Suppose, there is a natural sama-saptaka, but suppose Venus and Mars are not placed in sama position like 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12;
Guruji: That means they have become enemy.
Student: They will become enemy.
Guruji: They will become enemy. That means they will marry initially, but after some time, they will become enemy. Initially the marriage will be good, but after some time, it will get spoiled.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Yes. Yes. Yes. It very important to see sambandha. Whatever is indicated as a graha sambandha, is what will happen in a marriage. So, understand the graha sambandha. It is not just… Why am I doing this exercise with you? So that you understand it. It is simple formula even computer can do that. Why do you need to go through this mentally? So that you understand its gist, of what I am doing here. Why is this happening: once you understand it, then you will be able to apply it on a horoscope as soon as you see it. How a natural attraction happens and how it gets distorted due to the graha sambandha. Or initially there may be repulsion then the relationship may improve because of graha sambandha. How many times you have seen, that, initially they are enemies and then they become friends. Why is it happening? That will there in the horoscopes and will be visible in the sambandha-change. One is natural sambandha, and one is artificial sambandha which is caused by graha positions. Tatkālika sambandha, is what it is called. Naisargika sambandha are natural sambandha. Tatkālika is what is there in your kuṇḍali, in your bhāgya. Whether you like it or not, it is there.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Naisargika is what you naturally like and what you don’t like naturally. For example, Mīna lagna loves Śukra, as that is the exaltation of Śukra but Śukra is the lord of 3rd and 8th, and is the deadly enemy of Śukra. If Śukra does not have good sambandha with Jupiter, after some time, the effect of that exaltation will become weak.
Student: Not clear
Guruji: No, No. The exaltation planet, for example, there is a Meṣa lagna, for example. Somebody is born in Meṣa lagna. Meṣa lagna people will always like Siṁha lagna, by nature they will like Siṁha lagna, naturally they will like Siṁha lagna, but say, for some reason in that person’s horoscope, Mars and Sūrya have become highly inimical, So, their natural friendship has become Sama. Sama has not become enemy, it has not become Shatru. It is just Sama. Sama means neutral/indifferent, it doesn’t matter if he/she goes or stays. Say you are choosing Meṣa lagna or Siṁha lagna person, why am I doing this exercise? I am doing this exercise to help you choose which lagna person must you choose. This exercise is crucial. One wrong choice, it will prove to be adverse in long term. Lagna is most crucial. Lagna matching is very very crucial. Exercise I am doing right now, is for lagna matching.
Student: same Lagneśa will solve all the problems.
Guruji: Yes, it will solve many problems. Graha maitri is automatic. What is graha maitrī? When we are doing graha maitrī in a horoscope, what are we doing? We are actually seeing whether the lagna lords are matching or not. How is your lagna lord placed in my chart? How is my lagna lord placed in your chart? That’s graha maitrī. I am explaining this graha maitrī in more detail. People are doing graha maitrī in a wrong manner. You see, Budha lagna people… for example: let us say, someone born in tule lagna. Tulā lagna people like Śani very much. Does Tulā lagna like Siṁha? No. They don’t like Siṁha lagna. They hate Siṁha lagna in fact. Siṁha lagna will be bādhakeśa from that.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: If exaltation will cause great liking, debility can cause a hate. But that is really not so. Debility does not cause hate. There is no such law. This is our own thinking. For example, Mīna Lagna, will dislike all the Mercury lagna people? No, it is not so. Nothing of this sort.
Gurvi Ji: Because of bādhakeśa
Guruji: No, it is not because of bādhakeśa.
Gurvi Ji: may be it is like Sūrya as bādhakeśa for Tulā lagna
Guruji: No, It is not bādhakeśa.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Right? So, it is not like that. When we see the graha maitrī, we have to follow the rules we have done now. 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12; and 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12. These are the rules. Exaltation adds. That’s all. It does not say that debility is bad. Am I clear? These are the rules, anything you add, or anything you subtract is only going to spoil your scheme. Am I clear? Okay. For example, Taurus lagna people will always Karka lagna very much, Why? Because Chandra is exalted in taurus. Clear? It is the natural tendency of taurus to like Chandra. If taurus did not like Chandra, why would Chandra get exalted over there?
Student: But Chandra is enemy because Karka is the third house from over there.
Guruji: So, What happens? This is what I wanted to hear. What happens is “taurus will naturally choose Chandra, and, after some time, taurus will not like Chandra.
So, first the relationship is fantastic. After some time, it gets bad and then worse. If the sambandha is Sama, then it will still remain. If the sambandha has become shatru, it will become totally wrong.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Depending, you have to see what is there in the horoscope. Suppose, taurus lagna people,… for example if you marry a taurus lagna and Karka lagna person, and in their charts, Śukra and Chandra are not having good sambandha. You will see that after some time the marriage will become weak. The tendency now, all of you now will immediately go and start looking at your horoscopes. I know that. You will come with lot of questions in the next class, and I will answer them to the extent I can. Okay? So, you understood what I was talking about the sama-saptaka and all those things. Okay, now,
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: When they are in trines, are you sure? You are sure of what you are saying?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. Not like that. Take the Moon. Which is the mūlatrikoṇa of the Moon?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. You are not sure. you are having some doubts. You need to study this more. And, you must know which are the mūlatrikoṇa of the planets. Anyway, let us say, its taurus. Let us say, Taurus. Let us take taurus and see who are his friends. Who is the lord of 2?
Student: not clear
Guruji: Mercury. 5?
Student: Moon
Guruji: How? From taurus, which is the 5th lord? Mercury. Virgo. From taurus, 5th house is virgo. Can you visualise what I am saying? From taurus, 5th house is Virgo, lord is Mercury. Okay, like that, you have to take every planet. 2, 4, 5, 8, 9, 12. These are his friends. The remaining are his enemies. So, Mars is a friend or is an enemy?
Student: friend.
Guruji: How? Mars is the lord of the 7th and the 12th. So, he is friend as well as his enemy. So, he becomes neutral. What about Ketu?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: It is his enemy. What about Rāhu?
Student: (not clear
Guruji: Enemy. What about Saturn?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: 9th and 10th. Neutral. What about Mercury? 2nd and 5th, great friend! What about Jupiter? 8th and 11th, neutral! Right? 8th is friendly and 11th is enemy, so, neutral. What about Venus? 1st and 6th. 1st is friend or enemy?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. That is when we are talking about the other formula. That is 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12; that case 1 is enemy. Not in this case. In this case, 1 is friend, because that is Mūlatrikoṇa. Okay, let us assume, 1 is enemy. Who is the lord of the exaltation of the Moon? Venus. So, he becomes neutral. He is enemy and friend, so he is neutral. So, everybody is neutral to the Moon excepting Mercury. Everybody excepting Mercury, is neutral to the Moon. And Rāhu and Ketu are enemy to the Moon. Is it not so important to understand? If I say that the Moon is to represent the fortune of human beings. Other than Mercury, nothing else is friendly. Everybody else is friendly because of a vested interest. Rāhu and Ketu are openly inimical. Okay? Alright. So, fine. Tell me. What was your question? Moon and Jupiter, right? Pisces and Jupiter. Now what is Jupiter, is it friendly or is he inimical?
Student: lagna is pisces?
Guruji: No, what is Jupiter to the Moon? Is he friendly to the Moon or is he inimical to the Moon, what is he?
Student: friendly
Guruji: No. See? You are going by things you have mugged up. I am telling you a formula, by which you know exactly what is the truth. So, Jupiter is neutral to the Moon, or Moon considers Jupiter as Neutral? Moon considers Jupiter as neutral. Now. Now, let’s take cancer lagna. Right? For cancer lagna, where do we stand? Let us say, for cancer lagna, Moon is exalted in somebody’s chart, and let us say Jupiter is in Sagittarius. Is it good or is it bad, or what is going to happen if a pisces lagna… One person born in cancer lagna his Moon is exalted in taurus and Jupiter is placed in Sagittarius. What happens if this person were to marry a person with pisces lagna? Fair enough? This is your question, very beautifully placed? Tell me what will happen.
Student: not clear
Guruji: You want me to repeat the question? Karka lagna Moon exalted jupiter in Sagittarius, if such a person were to marry a person of pisces lagna, what will happen in a marriage, in the relationship? Tell me.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: It will be good? Or the relationship will break? Would it be bad?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Okay. Initially, will it be good?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Who is neutral and who is friendly? From Jupiter’s viewpoint what is the marriage, and from Moon’s viewpoint what is the marriage? There are two people one is Karka lagna, one is Mīna lagna. From Karka lagna, what is happening and from Mīna lagna what is happening, can you explain?
Student: For Karka lagna, Jupiter is owning 6th and 9th, so, it is sama.
Guruji: How is it sama?
Student: Because 9th house….
Guruji: For the Moon… no, we are not taking 9th house. Okay, you answer, he is still confused. Why don’t you answer.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: For Moon, Jupiter is neutral. Original. Originally, he was neutral. But now, he has become enemy. So, neutral plus enemy is enemy. Right? So, Initially, it was neutral, later, it became enemy. So, initially, liked Jupiter or he did not like Jupiter? No, he was neutral, he was indifferent. So, in the first place Moon did not want to marry Jupiter. But because of let us say, some force or some matching, he married Jupiter. Then after that, Moon and Jupiter had a fallout. So, Moon became highly.. Moon started considering Jupiter as highly inimical. So, the relationship got spoiled from Jupiter’s viewpoint. Initially, Jupiter is exalted in cancer. So, Jupiter is bound to like the Moon. So, Jupiter is deep love with the Moon, with Karka lagna. See the natural sambandha. The mūlatrikoṇa of Jupiter is Sagittarius, and from Sagittarius, Moon is the lord of the 8th house. So, Jupiter is considering Moon to be a friend. Jupiter is thinking Moon is friend, but, Moon is thinking Jupiter is neutral. See the difference, and then, it becomes inimical. So, first, Jupiter was feeling very exalted, he was in deep love. And, he was fully committed to the relationship. But after that, he became inimical. Am I clear? So you see how the relationship is changing with time? Good.
Student: so, how do we see something like, with same lagneśa. Because you are comparing two planets.
Guruji: That’s very good normally. If the lagneśa is the same, there is graha maitrī in the horoscope. Graha maitri is 100%.
Student: it could also show a problem in the marriage.
Guruji: No. Not all the time. This could also show a trend in the marriage. The natural trend for the marriage. If for example, let us say, a person has got Jupiter in pisces. See, I have got jupiter in pisces in lagna. And the person meets another one, who is dhanu lagna. The person will tend to ignore dhanu lagna. Because Jupiter, when he sits in a house, he will tend to favor that house, more than the other house. Similarly, odd and even house, you have to take them into account, to see which one is favoring more. If Jupiter is in an odd sign, he will favor the even sign. If it is an even sign, he will favor the odd sign, by the reversal principle, purusa-stree principle. Have you understood or is it going above you?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. Excepting when in own houses. So, naturally if he is in pisces, he will favor pisces because that’s his own house.So, then the rule is not applying. But if he is aries, he will tend to favor pisces. If he is in taurus, he will tend to favor Sagittarius. Like that. Okay?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: What you are telling, those things will come in subsequently. But, initially, it is good because it is excellent graha maitrī. They will naturally like each other.
Student: Yeah, but eventually, they will have a fallout, if it is bad from that house. Okay? So, did you understand graha maitrī?
Student: even if they are very good friend, like saturn and Venus, and if the graha sambandha is not friendly, then eventually, they will not stay that friendly.
Guruji: They will become neutral. If Tulā lagna and Makara Lagna, marry, and the sambandha is not good. Then, after some time, they will become neutral. Marriage goes on. But they are not becoming inimical. If they become inimical, then it’s a problem. Marriage becomes a problem, if they become inimical. So, first thing when you match, please check graha maitrī in a horoscope.
Another Student: What is graha maitrī?
Guruji: Graha maitri is a friendship between the lagna lords.
Gurvi Ji: so, we take the two lagna lords, when two people marry?
Guruji: Yeah.
Gurvi Ji: I did not follow that because I was thinking why is he suddenly taking lagna lords?
Guruji: Lagna lord represents the person, his buddhi. Your buddhi and my viveka, is it working or not. If the girl says, “no, I want to live in india”. And the boy says, “no, I want to live in the USA”. Finished. Their lagna lords are not working in harmony.
Gurvi Ji: That why we take the Moon sign.
Guruji: No. No. No. Moon is manas. It’s the pressure of the society, family.
Gurvi Ji: I am asking, this is confusing. If we take cancer Lagna and Jupiter is neutral because he is lord of 9th.
Guruji: Who told you its 9th? He told you, I did not say that. 8th and 11th lord.
Gurvi Ji: That what I don’t understand.
Guruji: Because Moon is exalted. That’s why. Let us say Moon was in leo. Then what you will do? Jupiter is still 8th and 11th lord. Mūlatrikoṇa of the Moon!
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: But he went even one step further. He went into the lagna itself. You cannot take the lagna like that. Mūlatrikoṇa, office! Office of the graha.
Gurvi Ji: Why do you see this exercise from the Mūlatrikoṇa?
Guruji: That buddhi are matching. Buddhi of the two people are going in the same direction. If somebody’s Buddhi is going some direction, another one says, “no, don’t go”.
Gurvi Ji: Why the mūlatrikoṇa? I mean, why not….
Guruji: You tell me where else should I see it from?
Gurvi Ji: Why not the exaltation?
Guruji: Why exaltation? The exaltation is a delight. So, what if you are delighted? Big deal!
Another Student: the karma
Guruji: Mūla Daśā, The concept behind Mūla Daśā; the answer to this question is in the concept behind mūla daśā. The question, why are we taking Mūlatrikoṇa? Have you heard of Mūla Daśā? Varāhamihira used two dasha in his life, only two dasha. Only two. Mūla dasha and Naisargika Dasha. Mūla dasha is the most important dasha from the point of view of varahamihira. Please understand that Mūla is your karma phala. Karma of the past life, will come from the mūlatrikoṇa of the dasha. Because it is the office of the planet. The karma where you perform karma. The karmas will come through the mūlatrikoṇa. Okay? A person who is sleeping in his house is not creating any bad karmas. It’s only when you start doing some karma, that you create good or bad karma. Am I right?
Gurvi Ji: So, just go back to that…. the mūlatrikoṇa that I see is Taurus from the chart that he gave, that means the person with the pisces lagna like cancer lagna more than the cancer lagna likes pisces lagna.
Guruji: Yes. Bharata liked Rāma, Rāma did not like Bharata so much. Bharata loved Lakṣmaṇa. Lakṣmaṇa hated Bharata. See? When you learn Rāmāyaṇa, you see this. How this worked? Bharata was so… look at Bharata’s sacrifice. Unless you love somebody so much you cannot make such a big sacrifice. It’s not easy. Your brother has gone to vanavāsa and you are living in the middle of the city like vanavāsa, which is actually more difficult. Everybody is around him, he is the king over there. What was are doing, you are working like a servant. Since, he is not there to give your orders, the whole responsibility of good and bad is on your head and you are taking the blessings from the pair of Slippers. Wow. What a man. Unless you are madly in love with your brothers, why would you do it? This is the story of Mīna and Karka. The difference between Rāma and Lakṣmaṇa, is that Rāma is Puṣya Nakṣatra, and Lakṣmaṇa is Āśleṣā Nakṣatra. Puṣya nakṣatra realizes this, realizes this love of Bṛhaspati, that Bṛhaspati loves Karka. Puṣya Nakṣatra realizes this. Āśleṣā Nakṣatra hates this because he is Sarpa. Nakṣatra. Then, we are going into even more detail. I do not want to confuse you with details today. I want to only keep you limited to relationships and not just husband and wife. This is any kind of relationship. This rule will apply to every sambandha. Okay?
Gurvi Ji: After you do this exercise, why we see they are in 2,3,4,10,11,12.
Guruji: To find out, where they are going to do what.
Gurvi Ji: Yeah, to see, whether they are sama or not.
Guruji: Correct.
Gurvi Ji: But that is tatkalik sambandha.
Guruji: Yes, that is tatkalik sambandha.
Gurvi Ji: So, we don’t see the lordship of that planet in that house
Guruji: No.
Gurvi Ji: Then, lot of people when they are talking… (some of it is unclear)….temporary thing depending on the temporary lordship in the chart. And, they match the temporary lordship with the natural thing.
Another Student: they take the dispositor
Guruji: I don’t know why they do such things. Ask them.
Gurvi Ji:….. means where this planet is placed in the horoscope. If they are placed in 2, 3, 4, 10, 11, 12;
Guruji: from one planet; then they are friendly to that planet.
Gurvi Ji: From one planet. Not from the lagna?
Guruji: No.
Student: Mutual positions.
Guruji: They are mutual positions of planets. Let us say in your horoscope, what is the sambandha between the Moon and the sun, from the Moon, Sūrya is in the 2nd house, so it is good sambandha. From Sūrya, Chandra is in 12th house, it is good sambandha. So, the Sun and the Moon have excellent sambandha when the Moon has less pakṣa bala. If the Moon has less pakṣa bala, then the sun and the Moon have excellent sambandha. If the Moon is having the high pakṣa bala, sun and the Moon are having problems. Incredible.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Sun is the father and Moon is the mother. Where the mother starts shining in her own light, that house is gone.
Gurvi Ji: Then, how do we see the full Moon situation.
Guruji: Bad
Student: But it is very good for spiritual
Guruji: Yes, very good for spiritual thing. That’s why you become Guru Nanak, leave the house and run away.
Gurvi Ji: And amavasya?
Guruji: Amāvasyā has as much problem as full Moon.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Right.
Student: the good thing is that Sun is on top of Moon
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Guruji: That is Meṣa lagna talking.
Student: (everybody laughing)
Guruji: I told you that you have Meṣa lagna instead of Vṛṣabha in Navāṁśa, and so, you will think like that. It is the natural tendency. If it was taurus lagna, you would have said, “hey, stupid Sun. Moon should be the highest. That is the tendency. It’s natural. Okay? Clear?
Student: do we take both the lordships?
Guruji: No, they are different concepts. Extended from here, but they are different. We will not go into that. Okay. Dharma ayana and lagna has become clear? Okay. Now, Mokṣa:
What is mokṣa ayana? Spiritual path? Husband and Wife should travel in the same spiritual path ideally? Right? For that, number 1: both have to live long. It’s not that the wife would die within few months of marriage and the husband would get mukti? Then what spiritual path are we talking about? The real spiritual path will come only at the fag end of your life. So, it is a necessary condition of the spiritual path, that they need to live together, long. So, one of the important matchings in this case is longevity matching. 4th, 8th and 12th. Longevity matching. Mokṣa trikona. So, happiness, whether they are peaceful together or they are not peaceful together? If they are not peaceful together, their spiritual path will get totally destroyed. If they are peaceful, spiritual path will increase. Okay? And, finally, what we call the upapada matching. Upapada matching is the part of the spiritual part of matching. As Gauṇa Pada. It is not to do with your physical matching. It is your opportunity to do good karmas in life. After all, you are going to be earning so much money, there should be somebody to eat that. What will you do with that money? You cannot take it to Yamaloka. Somebody should enjoy that. You earn that money, for whom are you earning that money? Why are you earning money? So that somebody eats. What can be a better opportunity than that? Friends will eat, wife will eat, children will eat. People throw big parties. It is good, nothing wrong. You are feeding. So long as they are feeding and feeding good things, it is good. That money, which is the money which is being spent on good things, it is good. Look at it positively, learn to look at expenditure, in a positive way. You see, Govt. of India has put a very negative bolt in our head right from our childhood, we are told, we must save, we must save, we must save, which is wrong. Why are your earning? Just to save money? You also have to spend it properly. To spend money properly, is the greatest thing that you can do for your soul, spiritually. If you are earning, see, you are in the material world, none of you are sādhus over here. If you are in the material world, it is very important that the money that you earn, it should be spent properly. Please ensure that you spend at least 10% of your wealth for some spiritual cause. You learn to give dāna, otherwise, you will not increase spiritually. And, your wife or your husband is the best source. Ask them, encourage them. That is gaun pada, you have to use, and you have to use that upapada really. For example, if I find someone’s upapada in Mercury signs, I ask them to donate some money for the nation, 10$, 40$ every week. Only that much you have to do. Every week, and every wednesday, you donate. Form it a habit. For that person who is donating, that money is very minute, but it will accumulate over the years. Pick up the day of the lord of the upapada, and ensure that you donate on that day. If you donate, believe me, your marriage will be spiritually fulfilling. It is very important to make a donation. If you donate money, your marriage will become spiritually fulfilling. If you have, this thing, “mercy”, and three qualities that start with “da” akshara.
Dayā = mercy
Damana = self control over your senses and over yourself
Dāna = donation (sāttvika dāna is talked about here)
Because where you spend money, will decide whether you have control or not. Control is spending the money in right place; and it is not “not spending the money at all”. That is also not control. Damana is basically part of that dāna. Dāna is also to be in the right direction. If I donate to a drunkard. That is not dāna. Okay? Dāna in gambling places, is not dāna. It has to be controlled, it has to be in the right direction. You see, people who are born with the deva-guṇa, like to donate money in the gambling places, a place of alcohol and such places. They are deva-gaṇa. they will definitely do it. That is Indra, so they want to enjoy. They spend in dance party. Manuṣya gaṇa = total control, don’t spend at all, and are miser. Rākṣasa gaṇa = if they spend 50 bucks, will try to extract 100 back. These three things you have to avoid them. You have to spend it in the right places and then to give, and do not cringe about the giving. So, that is mokṣa. As far as marriage is concerned, this is a crucial thing. If you give money into your wife’s hand, do not ask her where she spent it. If you do it, she will go back to her father’s home (jokingly)
(everybody laughs)
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Yes. (laughing)
Okay, that is 4th house.
Kāma trikoṇa, 7th, 11th and 3rd house. In this, mithun Rāśi is the worst Rāśi. It is worst. Mithuna is the dharma of Vivāha. A marriage is not completed if it is not consummated. It’s a law. Do you know this law? A marriage is not completed if not consummated? Why? That is the meaning of dharma. Dharma means law. 7th house is marriage, law of marriage is 9th from the 7th, which is mithun, the consummation of marriage.
Student: We see many cases, when we are analysing charts, that they have married but not consummated.
Guruji: We are looking at the 3rd house.
Student: Right. But if we come across a case, that they got married but not consummated.
Guruji: So, the person wants some help?
Student: Yes. And if they want to marry again. But if they got married and not consummated, do you consider that the marriage did not complete/happen?
Guruji: No. That is the duality involved in the upapada itself. There are two different people sitting in that upapada. The first person said that there was no consummation, for the second person it was the right person. It means that a wrong number. It is just a wrong number that you dialed. For example, somebody got married, and within three months the person died, that is also wrong number.
But that will be there in the horoscope. but it will be wrong number, but then the right number will come after that.
Gurvi Ji: It’s like two planets over there
Guruji: Something like two terrible planets fighting together or something like that, graha yuddh or something. In such a case, what advice will you give? Very simple advice, see the lord of the 3rd house, tell them to do accordingly, depending upon the level of your own spiritual thinking. If for example, Venus is lord of the third house. I had asked this question to some of my students, and their level of spiritual thinking I could make out. Venus is lord of the third house, what will you do? Sanjay Ji, he will go to another woman. Somebody else said, “no, use a scent or something like that”. See the difference, both are Śukra, difference is in your spiritual thinking on what you are choosing. Right? How are you approaching the thing the problem. How are you fulfilling the dharma of vivaha, will be seen from your third house. Similarly, what is the dharma of lagna? 9th house. So, how do you fulfill? That is why it is called dvija. twice born. Lagna has come twice. Janm means lagna. First lagna was your physical lagna, and second is the lagna which came because of your spiritual this thing. Dharma, savitur Gāyatrī.
Gurvi Ji: So, 9th house is the second lagna. 9th house is causing the second lagna to come, to be born again, because it is the guru. In the first case, 9th house is father, and in the second case, ninth house is the guru. In both cases, it is lagna. In first case, lagna is the physical health, in the second case, it is the buddhi and gyan. Lagna is also physical health, and lagna is also buddhi and gyan. It all depends upon which planet is sitting in the 9th house. Do you understand the difference? Dvija, what does it mean? Dvija means twice-born, right? Twice born into what? First birth is physical birth which is for health purpose, in which your 9th house is your father, your physical father. In the second case, the lagna is intelligence, in which case, who is sitting in the 9th house? The guru. The difference in the 9th house is causing the first house to be different. Similarly, difference in the 3rd house, will impact the 7th house. If a benefic is in the 3rd house, you will approach your spouse with love, with affection. If a malefic is in the 3rd house, you will probably take out a sword and put it on her throat or something like that. Do you understand? How do you approach? It depends on the 3rd house. Okay? Good. So, dāra pada, A7, is to be examined very carefully in this matter.
Student: sir, what was the last thing you said?
Guruji: dāra pada is to be examined very carefully. What happens is that we often ignore the fact that there must be harmony between the two. That this sambandha must be very harmonious. It must be a very friendly relationship over here. Alright? In one chart, what would you assume to be a friendly thing? What is friendly. Friendly means that A7 should not be in 7th house or the 12th house from the ārūḍha lagna. If it is in 7th or 12th from the ārūḍha lagna, then, such a person will have serious problems when it comes to sexuality. Clear? Surely it will be there. Especially, neuter planet, means Budha and Śani should not be in A7. If he has neuter planets in A7, then such a person should not marry. It is not worthy to marry if the life of other person is destroyed. There should be no neuter planet in A7. If there is a napuṁsaka / neuter planet, who must equally Virile to override it. If neuter planet is dominating the A7, then such a person may be forced by situation, if it is Saturn, it will be forced by situations to be celibate most of the time. If it is Mercury, it is by choice. Mercury does it by choice. Saturn does it by circumstances. “Everybody is away from me, nobody comes near me”: that’s Śani. Budha is like: “I want to play right now, I don’t have time for all this”. You see? Either the immaturity, or the old age, are both bad. The best planet over there, is Śukra, Ketu: extremely good. Completely headless: good. Ketu is very good. Completely headless and very good. The more headless it is, the better it is, right? What is there to analyse and think?
(everybody laughing)
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Yes, you fulfill dharma, and do it. Planets who are naturally friendly to Venus, are very good over there, excepting Saturn and Mercury.
Gurvi Ji: If Ketu and Venus are together
Guruji: Oh sorry, planets who are naturally friendly to jupiter, are very good over there in A7. Not Venus, I stand corrected. Who are naturally friendly to Jupiter, please Bear in mind. This is a very small point I am telling you, makes a difference of day and night. Karaka for children. Putra kāraka. 11th from the 7th. Some gain should be there from that. A7 is all about mating, now if mating is done, and if it bears no fruits, then there is no gain from that. What is the difference between barrenness and this thing? Barrenness is “no fruits”. We want fruits.
Student: you don’t see the lordship of the A7?
Guruji: That is, we can see the individual thing in much more detail. A7, in general, keep in mind that jupiter is very crucial for this.
Jupiter is very crucial for this. The purer it is, the better it is. The more sāttvika it is, the better it is.
Student: What about Rāhu in A7?
Guruji: yes, it gives some issues. But, unfortunately, Rāhu doesn’t have a body, see the problem. He does all of that in the Mind. That’s the problem. The problem is that he is tormented in the mind.
Gurvi Ji: So, Rāhu in A7, means the person will be tormented in the mind?
Guruji: Naturally. With that thing. Because that is Rāhu.
Gurvi Ji: Regarding A7 issues?
Guruji: Regarding A7 issues. Because the body is not being satisfied, it is the head. He is think and think and think all the time. Okay?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: AL & A7 together is good. I consider that the best. Best position: together. Together is the best. They should be together, why should they be separate? Perfect wave-length, everything perfect. In such things, there should be perfect wavelength. It’s a blessing. Imagine somebody having A7 in the 8th house from AL? If A7, is in the 6th, 8th or 12th from the AL; who is the kāraka of these houses?
Student: Śani
Guruji: Śani. That means when the spouse is sick, when the spouse is sleeping, when the spouse is tired, at that time, this person will fee, “oh,…something he will feel”, its so weird. In which bhāva is it from the AL, and what is the kāraka. 1st is very good, 5th is also very good. I consider the trines to be the best in this matter. Okay, A7 is done?
Now, A3: because dharma, there is a ārūḍha of the dharma. There is a manifestation of that ārūḍha, 3rd house? What is A3?
Gurvi Ji: 3rd house is important for the way you approach the spouse, but then it will mean what, in the physical matters, or
Guruji: Physical. Mithuna bhāva. What we call parākrama. Conquest. Rāhu in 3rd house, kidnap the wife.
(everybody laughing)
Okay, 3rd house, the ārūḍha of the 3rd house. The ārūḍha of the 3rd house shows, how in this world, the 3rd house is going to manifest. Sūrya is very very important. Sūrya is sarvatma. Sūrya is sarvatma. Sūrya is very crucial for this viewpoint. He is the lord of the natural 5th house which is the house of children. If the ārūḍha are in 2nd house or 6th house or 8th house and 12th house, are you seeing the thing what I am pointing at? 2, 6, 8 & 12. These are out of sync. Houses which are “out of sync”. Shadashtaka or dwidwadasha houses. If these arudhas are shadashtaka (6th-8th), or dwidwadasha (2nd-12th), from Sūrya, they will be destroyed by the Sun. Shadashtaka with the Sun are the worst. Sun can destroy anything who stand in his way. Rāma: nobody should stand in opposite of him in battle. When Rāma picks up the bow, don’t stand in the way, it can destroy anything an anyone. Lanka was destroyed. The arrow of Rāma is like the rays of the Sun. Shad means shatru, ashtaka; shadashtaka is shatru relationship. Dwi-dwadasha = who makes loss, 12th is marana kāraka sthāna of Sūrya, and similarly, Sūrya should not be in marana karaka from 2nd. From Sūrya’s viewpoint, 2-12 are all marana situations, one is dying. Shadashtaka is “who is my enemy”. Sūrya is very clear. My enemy is Ravana. Shadashtaka means, he is ravana and I am going to kill him: that’s Sūrya. And dwidwadasha for Sūrya: that means its life or death I have to follow my dharma.
Gurvi Ji: So, that is like: from 2nd, Sun is in marana karaka
Guruji: yes, and from Sūrya, 12th is marana karaka. because Sūrya thinks like that. For Maṅgala, it’s the 7th house that is marana karaka, because that is how Maṅgala thinks. Maṅgala’s thinking is different from Sūrya’s thinking. Okay?
Student: (little chitter chatter and rest of it is not clear)
Guruji: both ways Sūrya is marana karaka from what,
Student: cancer
Guruji: For Sūrya? No. No. No. Not like that. Where is your Sun?
Student: Tulā
Guruji: Yours is in Tulā, and his is in Mithuna. See, Sūrya is in the natural 7th and 3rd house, right? So, they are all with…..
Gurvi Ji: What is law of natural 3rd house?
Guruji: Nothing, nothing, nothing. Okay. So, are we being very clear on this now? Remember, any thing, any graha, any upagrah, anybody in 6th, 8th, 2nd and 12th from Sūrya. 2nd and 12th, we have to study in more detail. But Arudhas cannot survive over there. Forget. Impossible. Arudhas? They cannot survive over there. Ārūḍha is maya. What will maya do in front of Agni? So, he will be destroyed. So, that is the reason if A3 and A9; now what is A9, ārūḍha of the 9th house? It is 3rd from the 7th. So, A9 is the prakRama of the spouse, the mithun of the spouse. A3 is your mithun. A9 is the mithun of the spouse. If any of these two, are in 2nd, 6th, 8th or 12th from Sūrya, that means that person physically is not….having some problem. There is some physical problem. There is some physical problem that is why they cannot have children.
Or if they children also, there will be some defect in the children. What we call a pitṛ doṣa. Sūrya is pitṛ, pitṛ doṣa will come to the children.
Gurvi Ji: (no clear)
Guruji: Enemy. Shadashtaka. But depends on who is dealing with enemy. The way Sūrya deals with enemies, nobody else deals with it. Jupiter’s enemy? What will Jupiter do? At max, He can do some incantations, what else Jupiter can do?
Gurvi Ji: Then why is it pitṛ doṣa
Guruji: Pitṛ doṣa means… these we are talking about the dharma doṣas, Gāyatrī mantra’s 1/4th is supposed to go to the pitṛ. Both from the male and the female. Tcehnically it is supposed to go from the both. Because the ātma is not only for male it is for female also. It is so absurd to think that Male have ātma and female don’t have it. So, if you have got an Ātma, then the ātma has got a debt, is indebted to the four legs of dharma. You are giving 27 to each leg of dharma. That is why it comes to be 108. So, one is pitṛ. That is, basically the ṛṣis. From the ṛṣis, to all the elders. Then you have your “towards the society”, you know? The debt, four debts.
Student: So, when you have the pitṛ doṣa in the chart,
Guruji: the way out is the Gāyatrī mantra. Why has the pitṛ doṣa come? Because you did not do Gāyatrī.
Student: What are the problems that happen/come from the pitṛ doṣa?
Guruji: Offsprings don’t come. If offsprings come, they suffer. Worst part is, you will have to witness it all and you will be able to do nothing and you will be very frustrated that this problem is there. So, the solutionto that is to do Gāyatrī. Whoever got this, must do Gāyatrī mantra. Okay? Gāyatrī mantra is the best solution. The moment you start doing the Gāyatrī mantra, you will see that the problem will start vanishing. A3 in 2nd, 12th, 8th, or 6th from Sūrya. If it is A9, then you do it, it will be good for your spouse. Very good for your spouse. If the ārūḍha for the 3rd from Sūrya are there your children will always be close to you. Otherwise the children could go away and the children will not do last rites for you.
Student: So, this is also a sign of pitṛ doṣa.
Guruji: This, A3, A9, AS3, AS9, are all pitṛ doṣa related things. Okay?
Student: if they are dwidwadash or shadashtaka, then they are..
Guruji: Yes, then they are pitṛ doṣa. If a shubh graha is in these places with these arudhas, then the shubh graha will help you to come out from these doṣas. For example, if somebody has got, Mercury in the second from the Sun and A3 is there, then Mercury will help you to come out of that problem. So, through Mercury, you will find solution. But Ultimately, it has to be Gāyatrī mantra. It HAS to be Gāyatrī mantra. There is no doubt on that. So, 3 and 7 are done? Now, 10th house? We have done something on 10th house. So, this is the basic lagna chart.
Audio 1:47:01
Navamsh Chart: The Navāṁśa chart is the most important chart in the horoscope. Because it is indicating all the dharma that you have done in the last life. All the dharma that you done or the dharma that you had failed to do, both it is showing. And,since Vivāha is the fruit of the dharma, because of this dharma, you will have very good sambandha, very bad sambandha, marriage, etc, everything will come. Your whole social life, your whole dharmic structure, will come because of Navāṁśa chart. If a planet is exalted in the Navāṁśa, it is vishnu svaroopa. If a planet is exalted in the navamsh, it is like vishnu. Why because it is Navāṁśa, this is dharmāṁśa. An exalted planet means vishnu bhagvan is blessing you. It is vishnu roop. If it is debilitated, shaakt, means you are being punished and then you need to worship Devi or the mother to protect yourself from very heavy punishment. When you worship the devi, you will be protected from very heavy punishment. Punishment will be up to manageable limits. So, the navamsh is the true indicator of marriage and relationships. The correct indicator is the Navāṁśa. In the Navāṁśa, whoever is the lord of the 8th house, that planet will be responsible for breaking your first marriage. For ending your first marriage. Whoever is sitting in the 8th house, or the lord of that, these are the ones who will break the marriage. The one, who will help you to get married, will be seen from the 7th house from kārakāṁśa. If the planet is placed in 7th house from the kārakāṁśa, it means you will have to marry somebody because of that graha and fulfill the promises made by your ātma in the previous lifetime. It’s a little bit different right? I am talking about kārakāṁśa, why?
Student: Ātmakāraka
Guruji: ATMA. That means you promised in last life but your ran away. Now you will complete that in this life.
Student: That is when a graha is there.
Guruji: Yes, if a graha is there. You may not have run away. You may have married. You may have promised okay, next life also we will be together. You spent a life together, and you decided that you would be together in next life also if God permits. This can also be the reason. Whether that is good or that is bad, will be decided by situation of the planet in the Rāśi chart. Okay? Ok. In the case of mahatma gandhi, the kārakāṁśa had Jupiter in it. 7th house from kārakāṁśa had Sūrya in it. So, which planet is showing that he will have to marry in this birth?
Student: Sūrya
Guruji: Sūrya. Right. Now, Sūrya is guaranteeing that he has to marry and that this marriage is could be a continuation from the last birth or a promise that he has made, something, there is a link to last birth. One. Two, there is some connection between father and marriage. Right? True, his father got him married when he was very young. It was an arranged marriage. Kasturba Ji and he were married at a very young age. Now, in the Rāśi chart, Sūrya is bādhakeśa placed in the 12th house. What comment do you have to make? How does it affect the marriage?
Student: sacrifice
Guruji: What sacrifice?
Student: Bādhakeśa in the 12th house will remove all badhaka.
Guruji: Correct. His bādhakeśa is Sūrya. So, Sūrya will be the ego. Ego will be the badha in what? In the marriage.
Student: In marana karaka
Guruji: Correct. It’s in marana karaka. So, his fight against his ego will be a big battle. And, his wife will be the one who will help him very much to destroy this ego. She has. She made him wash the toilet. He would have never washed the toilet. He washed the toilet. He learned and did many things. His wife made him do everything. But his rebelling this was also different.
Student: Because of?
Guruji: Sun and bādhakeśa. Bādhakeśa is Rāhu. Means there is a doṣa. the moment I say bādhakeśa…
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: So, what? Caring is bad?
Student:: (not clear)
Guruji: he will ignore. Sūrya, when Sūrya is positive, you have no ego. Shri Rāma, see him, he has no ego. Shabri gave him that fruit, she tested it first by eating it, then gave the rest of it to Shri Rāma, he ate it. Will you eat? Let’s see you have ego or not.
Student: Now, if it’s about ego, we will eat it.
Guruji: Hmm.. (everybody laughing)
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: That is what Lakṣmaṇa said. Lakṣmaṇa said that, but Rāma did not.
Gurvi Ji: (not clear)
Guruji: That whole is about “I”. “I am pure, he/she is impure. I can’t eat a fruit eaten by an impure person, its should be vice versa. He/she should eat a fruit eaten by me”. Vice versa is alright but this way is not alright.
Gurvi Ji: Vive versa is also not alright.
Student: (students are discussing the same matter, but not clear)
Guruji: Think about these things, bādhakeśa Sūrya, bādhakeśa Chandra, bādhakeśa Bṛhaspati, what is the meaning of these things. The more you think the better it will be. I cannot pronounce everything for you. You have to think.
Today, I told Sūrya, you have to think Chandra, You have to think Maṅgala, all the other graha you have to think. All the other graha, you have to make notes. Okay. So, in Gandhi Ji’s life it was an ego. In another case let’s say, Moon is in the 7th from kārakāṁśa, and let us say it has gone to 5th house under affliction. What does it mean?
Gurvi Ji: there has to be a lot of affection.
Guruji: have to give?
Gurvi Ji: The person has the karma of giving.
Guruji: Marriage is because there is some connection to last life. Because it is 7th from kārakāṁśa. If that graha is giving marriage. Normally you will see, such person will marry in the dasha or the antardasha of such graha. You see marriage will happen in that time only. You can check. Open up Mahatma Gandhi chart and check it.
Student: Narasiṁha’s case.
Guruji: Okay, what’s his lagna.
Student: in Navāṁśa, he has Ātmakāraka Moon in gemini.
Guruji: Ātmakāraka Moon is in gemini. Note it. In the 7th, there is jupiter and Mars. So, there are two graha over there, both guru as well as Maṅgala. So, either guru or Maṅgala, either of the two will indicate the spouse that will come. The spouse mus have these graha in strength in her chart. Right. When did he marry, which dasha and antardasha?
Student: Antardasha of Jupiter.
Guruji: there you go. I am telling you, it works. Jyotish works. Its for sure.
Gurvi Ji: In his case, Jupiter is bādhakeśa also. In Narasiṁha’s case, Jupiter is bādhakeśa and is placed in 2nd house. What is the meaning of that, tell me.
Student: 2nd house of Rāśi?
Guruji: yes, Rāśi
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Jupiter is bādhakeśa. What happens when Jupiter is bādhakeśa?
Gurvi Ji: You told that, planet in 7th house from kārakāṁśa, that thing is what you really desire in your partner.
Guruji: That is why youu are marrying such a partner at that time. Why do you desire that most? That is why you are desiring that and that is why that person is coming with that quality.
Gurvi Ji: Then why does that give problem in the Rāśi chart
Student: in Rāśi, it happens to be the badhalesh
Gurvi Ji: okay
Guruji: You have to study that in Rāśi chart to find out what is the situation. It could be a big blessing, where am I saying no. How that graha is manifesting in your life. let me tell you if there is a graha over there, you should do the pūjā of that graha, the marriage will be fantastic. Irrespective of dashas. I am giving the guarantee, even if whatever be the upapada, or second from upapada. Ifthere is a graha in the 7th from kārakāṁśa, see the strength of the ātma. the ātma is a very string thing. Ātma’s 7th house has a graha, and the marriage is happening in that graha’s dasha/antardasha. It means that this marriage is not this life’s karma, its from the last life. Its confirmed. but you have to save this marriage, then, worship that graha and strengthen that graha constantly. Let whatever may come, you should keep strengthening that graha, vivaha will not break. Everybody who sees Narasiṁha’s chart, questions me, he has Ketu in the 12th house, how come his marriage has survived. Everybody’s horoscope that e have seen which has Ketu in the 12th house, marriage does not last for more than three years. That is because of Jupiter. Ketu in the 12th house, is blocked by jupiter in the 2nd. So, the planet, who can block Ketu, is Jupiter. What does Narasiṁha have to do? He has to make Jupiter stronger, and stromger and stronger and stronger. So long as Jupiter will be strong, his marriage will be strong.
Student: But that is the badhakaesh
Guruji: Yes, he will have his badhaka related problems about level of understanding and things like that and all that. There will be many issues, many many issues. Jupiter is bādhakeśa; so there is will be many issue in marriage. Family related issues, home related issues. he will sort everything out, so long as Jupiter’s blessings are on him. Have you seen him make Jupiter’s light shine on us? I did not tell him to write that, he wrote everything by his own will. He asked me. I only told him one thing when I saw his chart. Long time back in 1998. Only Satyanarain Vrat. Whatever you want to do you may do. As far as I am concerned, you have to do One Satya Narayan Vrat in every month on every Purnima. Jupiter is the one that I want to strengthen, so the Satya Narayan Vrat. see, his jupiter is so strong. Everything is fine in his life. No dasha is able to affect him. Right? But then that Jupiter is a big blessing. It is 7th lord in 2nd house. Guru is in dhan bhāva receiving dṛṣṭi from Maṅgala. It is making dhana yoga. One os the big dhan yoga Sṛṣṭi is that where jupiter is in 2nd house aspected by Mars. So, the same Guru and Maṅgala are nothing but the blessings of Lakshmi Ma coming over him. It is true. After the marriage, he is very lucky financially, fortunate. He came to America after marriage not before marriage. When I am talking of money matters. When you go to abroad for study, its vyaya, it’s not income.
Student: he went to Hyderabad, then they left to Korea.
Guruji: After marriage, he went to Korea. After marriage, he went to Korea, remember? He did not get good food over there. Then after that? See, it happened after marriage. Bādhakeśa! Bādhakeśa means? Life in foreign land. If that graha is bādhakeśa, it can give life in foreign land. So, after marriage, you may have to go and live in foreign country. Marriage will be very good when you live in foreign country. marriage will be bad when you come to India or home land.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: rest of the analysis you can do. I am talking about one graha. 7th house from kārakāṁśa. One graha. What is this graha indicating in Rāśi chart? If the graha is bādhakeśa, it is better for you to live abroad. See, Gandhi Ji’s marriage was so nice. He lived where? South Africa. He went to England. After marriage, he went to England. he went to South Africa. he went to all these places.
Student: So, Moon in this example, is 7th from kārakāṁśa, and is in 5th house in Rāśi chart and is the bādhakeśa. he will give problem in mantras
Guruji: Why? Narasiṁha has bādhakeśa in 2nd house, he will problem in money matters?
Student: May be because it was jupiter.
Guruji: How much will you revolve around? “Maybe”, how many times will you say “maybe”. In life, this “maybe” “possibly”, “could be”, “sorry”, you have to remove all this from your vocabulary. You want to be good in jyotish? Remove these “maybe”, “could be”. Either yes, or no. Walk in black and white. What happens by that, is that your mind becomes focused in making very definite decisions about why something happened. There has to be either yes, or no. Either that happened due to this, or not happened due to this. We cannot make a general statement about a placement in a house. It all depends. 5th house? If Rāhu is in 2nd house, then? Are you getting me? if it is Jupiter in 5th house, there is a day and night difference. So, what is the planet, which house it is placed, what does it indicate, what is the avastha of that graha.
Student: if this graha is bādhakeśa the person will live in foreign countries.
Guruji: Not “will”, should! if you want the person to prosper. Bādhakeśa will give prosperity outside the country. Surely. Is it clear now? So, we have also touched the kārakāṁśa today, it is good.
Student: if that planet is not the bādhakeśa but if it happens to be in badhak sthāna, then will it be the same?
Guruji: Yes. If it is bādhakeśa, then they will go abroad after marriage, If it is in the badhak sthāna,…. it is both ways. Badhak means you have to go abroad. Badhak to lagna, right? Lagna is home. Obstacle has come to lagna, means obstacle has come on home, you will go abroad. You will have success in Foreign. When I talking of Videsh, I am talking of linguistic and Cultural barrier Videsh. (Videsh = foreign land). Not political barrier videsh. For example, for many people in Bengal, delhi is definitely Videsh. For Odisha, it is surely Videsh. There radar range is upto Kolkata only. Some of them are idiots. I tell you. (everybody laughs). Really, they are not prepared to come and work in delhi. Now a days they have started coming out. I am hoping prosperity will come. Integration will happen. Otherwise, they keep inside the walls of their little home. So, badhak is clear? Okay. So, what we were talking about, was Navāṁśa. What is the meaning of planets in 7th house in the Navāṁśa chart?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Treat the 7th house as the lagna of the spouse.
Student: 1st wife.
Guruji: 1st spouse. Write what I am saying not what you are saying. So that you will learn to think in a certain way. Then you can apply it, when you think differently. Think of spouse. 2nd is maraka. So, 7th house is lagna, 2nd from that is the maraka bhāva. Write. 3rd house from that, is? What is 3rd house? The right hand of the spouse. That means skills that have been limbed; her hands, whether she is skilled or not. 4th house her mother, your mother in law. 5th house: her children prior to your marriage. Can be. (everybody laughs). It can be his in place of her. You laugh on “her”. That is something that happens between me and her. Leave that.
Gurvi Ji: “His” is more in such cases.
(everybody laughs)
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Mantra bhāva, her grandfather. Right? Because the 11th house is her grandfather. 12th house is “her pets”. For example, in the Navāṁśa, if the 12th lord is in lagna, if you become friendly to her pet, then she will become friendly to you.
(everybody laughing).
Guruji: I am giving you the tricks, it will come in useful.
Student: Road to success.
Guruji: Road to success.
Students: enemies?
Guruji: No. Don’t look enemies in Navāṁśa. Dharmāṁśa don’t have enemies. Servants, pets. 6th house. 7th from that, that is your lagna happens to be what you call her attitude towards relationships. 2nd house, its her/his 8th house, her aayu or her longevity, in general. Or Your next partner. It also shows your relationships which would cause breakage. It may cause breakage, it may end up supporting the marriage, you know? in old Zamindari families, it will support the marriage very much. There is no disharmony because there were never harmony. It is a very peculiar house. It is the one that can cause the marriage, or any other relationship that the spouse will have other than this marriage. Multiple relationship, extRamarital affairs. Everything, second house.
Student: extRamarital affair of the spouse or your own?
Guruji: Your own, that is causing the disturbance to the spouse. Where will you see the extRamarital affairs of the spouse? 8th house from the Navāṁśa lagna. Alright? Spouse’s extRamarital affairs are seen from the 8th house from the Navāṁśa lagna. Then after that?
Student: 2rd house is her 9th house
Guruji: father of spouse. Father in law. 10th house (lagna-4H), her work. 11th house and 3rd house are brothers and sisters. 12th house (lagna-6H), her expenses, what you can spend to please her. She may be spending different. What she would like to spend on, is different from what you would like to spend to please her. Now. All marana kāraka sthāna position of the graha are to be seen with reference to the 7th house. Okay? For example, Sūrya in the 6th house, is in marana kāraka to the 7th, so, he will not support marriage. In the Navāṁśa, the 7th house is the crucial house. If for example, Śukra is in the 12th house in the Navāṁśa, what does it mean? It means, Śukra is in marana kāraka sthāna from 7th house. It can completely destroy marriage. One garden four gardeners, type of situation. Who is marrying, whos kid is it, God knows, Śukra can go totally out of gear. Śukra has gone completely out of gear. Śukra should not be in 12th house in Navāṁśa. When people have Śukra in the 12th house in the Navāṁśa, they normally do not marry. Unless there are very powerful mitigating factors. What factors can mitigate Śukra in marana karaka?
Student: own sign, placement of something with that
Guruji: Yes, very much. Very much it helps. When Śukra is placed in own sign, it helps a lot. But it cannot prevent the absence of marriage. What can ensure that the marriage will take place? Who can block that Śukra?
Student: Jupiter?
Guruji: Why did you say Jupiter?
Student: Sūrya
Guruji: Why Sūrya?
Student: Jupiter exalts Venus. So, that’s why.
Guruji: Hmm. So, Venus is dying. Marana Karaka Sthana means that it is Dying. Something which is dying after sometime. It’s a question of time before it is destroyed. Complete destruction. So, when Śukra is going into marana karaka. What is the way out? Do we see the karaka? What is the meaning of marana karaka sthāna? Sthan means house, that means there is a house. When that planet goes into that house, that graha is dying. But there is a kāraka of that house. If that kāraka wants to save it, Kāraka can save that planet. Marana Kāraka Sthan means neither the lord of the house, and nor the planet placed in that house, among the two, nobody is well. Then, who can protect the house? Kāraka is the only one left. You have to take the kāraka of that house. Śani is the one. Whenever Śukra is dying, the one who can save him, is Śani.
Student: Its marana kāraka for the spouse, maran kāraka from the 7th house.
Guruji: So, it is the 6th house, and who is the kāraka of the 6th house?
Student: then you also take Maṅgala
Guruji: No, No, No. Maṅgala is the secondary kāraka, primary kāraka is Śani. 9th house for example, many will say that Sūrya is the kāraka, but primary kāraka is Guru not Sūrya. For animals, it is Sūrya. For human beings, it is Guru. Because animals cannot be dvija. They cannot have guru and mantra dīkṣā. It for manushya, guru and mantra dīkṣā. This is the difference between animals an humans. Guru. As far as dharma is concerned, what is the difference between humans and animals?
Only one difference is there,Guru. Otherwise there is no difference.
Student: If the person has Śukra in the 12th house, the spouse is going to suffer because of that. Because that is spouse’s Śukra that has gone into marana kāraka.
Guruji: No. No. No. The person will himself/herself id going to suffer, It is your Navāṁśa. It is the person’s Navāṁśa. In whoever’s Navāṁśa Śukra has gone to the 12th, that person is going to suffer the torment. Who you loved, if he/she is going to be involved with somebody else in a romantic relationship, then what happened to you? Your Venus got lost. What you felt, what you went through is a feeling of loss. What happened to you? Who you love, is being romantically involved with somebody else. Have you seen there are some people like that in this world? Who they start loving, that person marries someone else. That is Śukra in 12th house in Navāṁśa.
Gurvi Ji: So, for each varga, if the kāraka of that varga, if it goes to the 12th house for that varga, then that…
Guruji: It can destroy that varga, yes.
Gurvi Ji: Yeah. So, Venus is the kāraka of Navāṁśa.
Guruji: That is why it is double-worse. It is in maran kāraka, and is the kāraka of Navāṁśa also. The kāraka of varga should be strong. Correct! I agree. The kāraka of the varga, Navāṁśa’s kāraka, isi, kāraka of marriage, is Śukra, and it if goes there, then its full destruction. For example, if in dreshkan, if Jupiter goes into 12th house, the person is the eldest.
Gurvi Ji: If in saptamsh, Jupiter is in 12th house,
Guruji: It is not good. Why should jupiter be in 12th house. He is the kāraka of children.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: All marana kāraka sthāna. I have got Mars in marana kāraka sthāna, I should wear a diamond. I should wear Diamond. I don’t have money to buy. What to do? What is correct here? Should I wear or should I not? If Maṅgala is in 7th house, there should be love and harmony in 7th house, 24 hours, the person is in battle, what will happen to the person’s 7th house? Destroyed. He should strengthen Venus. he has to somehow propitiate Śukra. Unless he does some Śukra propitiation, it is hopeless, that house is gone. Maṅgala is gone and that house is gone.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Naturally, lordships shall be the trigger. Let us say somebody has got Karka Lagna. Maṅgala has gone to 7th house. So, what is the trigger?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. Maṅgala is in the 7th house, what is the lordship? Maṅgala is lord of 10th. Maṅgala is lord of 5th. Shri ram’s kundali, Maṅgala was lord of 10th and 5th. What is 10th house, throne? So he has Maṅgala in 7th house, as soon as he was about to sit on the throne, Vanvas. Did you see? Because of that marana kāraka Maṅgala. Because Maṅgala is in marana kāraka, he went to vanavāsa, And, there Sita was separated, and there all things happened, he fought such a big battle, and came back. Again, as soon as he was going to have children, children is in which house, 5th house? Again Sita went to Vanvas, and they separated. So, was all that useful? Shri Rāma should have consulted me. I should have said, “this rudrabhishek etc is okay, but you should wear a Diamond”.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Sita is Venus, who is favorable to Jupiter,
Sita is Venus, to make Venus favorable to Jupiter,
Student: so, there is no exception even if Mars is in own house, or exalted.
Guruji: Then different different color diamonds. Yellow Diamond, Blue Diamond, Black diamond etc. If I have to wear a diamond, I must wear yellow diamond, but if I wear White diamond, then I am finished. Because Venus is third and eighth lord in my chart. This is what I am telling just in case, if somebody gets in mood to buy a diamond for me, please remember yellow diamond. (everybody is laughing).
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Oh. You love to have Mars in 7th house?
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: But you can’t get it. Maṅgala will prevent it from coming.
Gurvi Ji: You know very recently for a relative of mine, who was having some major problem, he (Guruji) prescribed a diamond,
Guruji: But the diamond was for what, because Maṅgala’s transit was bad. Did you see that? You see, it will relieve it. This, you see, it’s a simple formula, when a graha goes in marana karaka sthāna, that house is marana karaka because basically, he is anti to that function. Right? Śukra represents sukha in this world. When Śukra goes to sixth house, the sukha you could get in this life, is finished. No sukha in this loka. So, who will give the sukha. Śani will give. So, you have to propitiate Śani.
Student: If the Śukra is in sixth house, just wear a blue sapphire.
Guruji: Yes. absolutely.
Gurvi Ji: For sun in the marana kāraka sthāna, the kāraka of 12th house, is saturn.
Guruji: Blue sapphire is magic for Vrischik Rāśi. Did you know that? I am just giving you an example. Vrischik Rāśi, for Vrischik Rāśi, the best gemstone is blue sapphire. Tell me why?
Students: (not clear)
Guruji: No. No. It’s the natural eighth house. The Moon is in maraṇa kāraka sthāna, in debility, and destroyed in the natural eighth house of the zodiac. So, Śani will come and save. You have to decide whether the problem is because of the house placement of Chandra or the rāśi placement of Chandra. Do you understand? If the problem is because of the rāśi placement of Chandra, then you have to prescribe Nīlam, blue sapphire. If the problem is due to the house placement of Chandra, then you have to give the solution according to that house. Try to understand my point. Both are different. They are two separate issues. One is the rāśi chakra, and one is the bhāva chakra.
For example, Śukra is debilitated in the sixth house of the rāśi chakra, in Kanyā rāśi. The Moon is debilitated in the eighth house, in Vṛścika rāśi. These two also happen to be their maraṇa kāraka sthāna. Right? For these grahas, if you see, Śukra, Chandra, Sūrya — for these three grahas, when they go to maraṇa kāraka sthāna, the one that can help is Śani.
Ideally, on Śanivāra, if you light a lamp of tila oil every Śanivāra after sunset, light that lamp near the Śivaliṅga. Then that problem will go. Why did I say Śivaliṅga? Because of the tattva doṣa. Vāyu tattva.
Who controls Vāyu tattva? Śiva. Ultimately, what is the problem? Why are the 6th house, 8th house, and 12th house maraṇa kāraka sthāna for Śukra, Chandra, and Sūrya respectively? Because they have a certain inherent problem with Vāyu. The Jala grahas are totally destroyed by Vāyu, and so is Sūrya destroyed. For this reason only, if you propitiate Śivajī, the problems for these grahas go. Do you see my point?
I can give a remedy for a Nīlam, but often a Nīlam can be very dangerous. So, I do not recommend a Nīlam easily. Instead of that, I tell them, “You fast on Saturdays, and after sunset, go and light a lamp of tila oil to Śiva, so that the Vāyu tattva is under control.” If they have acidity and all, then do not do hard fasting. Just have light food.
Student: Why is Jala tattva destroyed by Vāyu?
Guruji: Why is Jala tattva destroyed by Vāyu… hmmmm.
Student: Is it destroyed by Agni tattva?
Guruji: Agni can totally destroy Jala tattva. Agni is the one which can totally cause it to evaporate and causes what is known as Gaṇḍānta doṣa with it.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: No. The prāṇa in the Vāyu increases Agni. Prāṇa, or oxygen, is inside Vāyu. The rest of the Vāyu is not good. The Vāyu that we breathe, the required portion inside it is a little percentage; that much is prāṇa or oxygen. The rest of it is not required.
Why are we breathing? Why do we need to breathe, this exercise that we are doing? Twenty-four hours, waking, sleeping, we have to breathe. Why? It is such a waste of energy. We have to do it because it has prāṇa in it. For that little percentage of prāṇa inside the Vāyu, we have to inhale so much Vāyu. With that Vāyu, many things come into and go out of our body.
You see, Vāyu by itself, by its nature, is very disruptive. It is the prāṇa in the Vāyu which is the good Vāyu. There are five types of Vāyu, right? Prāṇa Vāyu is best; the other is not required. So, the disruptive part is not the prāṇa.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Yes, what else can you do? This is that thing: water is so impure these days, but not everyone can drink distilled water, so you have to drink water.
Student: You also need the other Vāyus.
Guruji: No, you don’t need the other Vāyu.
Student: (unclear)
Guruji: Vāyu does not do it. Water does most of the work. See, your blood carries most of the energy and all of the glucose. Blood is the one, fluid is the one, which is doing everything. Either it is your blood system or it is your lymph system, which is doing everything. As far as your body is concerned, the entire work is being done by water.
Vāyu does what? It is just hanging around doing stomach distention and all. Where is Vāyu in the body? Where else do we have Vāyu in the body?
Gurvi Ji: Vāta can enter every part of our body.
Student: Navāṁśa.
Guruji: Navāṁśa. Marana Kāraka sthāna of Venus and Moon and Sūrya. Don’t know, in whose knee what stuck, we started discussing vata and we got diverted from the topic. Let us go ahead. So, the marana kāraka of Śukra is in the 6th. Chandra’s marana kāraka is in ashtam (8th). And Sūrya’s marana kāraka is in dwadash (12th). So, if we visualise these planet positions, from 7th house in the Navāṁśa. So, what is happening? You are having Śukra in 12th house (as mks from d9-7H), Chandra in 2nd house, (as mks from d9-7H), and Sūrya in 6th house (as mks from d9-7H). What will happen when Chandra is in second house? So, 24 hours, the person is going to look at somebody else. Is it not? Chandra’s biggest doṣa is what? He didn’t let go even his guru’s wife (Bṛhaspati’s wife Tara). What is the problem with Chandra? This is the problem with Chandra. Chandra does not see the Maryada (moral boundaries). His work is to give kid to every woman. Every lady must become pregnant and fertile, that is the blessing of the Moon. He does not see what is maryada and what is beyond maryada; what is right and what is wrong. He blesses everybody. It is not his fault that he blesses,.. is it his fault? he blesses all the animals, he blesses all these plants, all these creatures, he blesses all living beings to have children/offspring. It is not his fault that he does so. But what happens when he is in the second house? And, what did I tell you, the second house was?
Student: (not clear) (listen at 2:35:44 to know it, if you can, it seems to be very important)
Guruji: Where is the person’s mind 24 hours? Gone. 2nd house or 7th house of Navāṁśa, if these two house of Navāṁśa have Chandra, can be quiet a bit problem.
Student: Why 7th house?
Guruji: Because 7th is the head of the person. 24 hours, the person is focused on that.
Student: But that is the head of the spouse. The spouse is fortunate, but in his 7th house, Moon is creating such issues, so, for him, 7th house is Moon. In matters of 7th house, he is behaving like the Moon.
Gurvi Ji: So, Moon in 7th and 8th house in Navāṁśa, is bad.
Guruji: Moon in the 7th house and the 2nd house.
Gurvi Ji: Not the 8th house.
Guruji: Yes.
Student: the person himself/herself will be inclined towards all that, not the pouse?
Guruji: Not the spouse. If it in lagna or 8th house, then the spouse will be inclined towards all that.
Gurvi Ji: No. No. If the Moon is in 2nd house from the Navāṁśa lagna, then the person will himself be inclined towards all that?
Guruji: himself, yes.
Gurvi Ji: Oh.
Guruji: Because the Moon will cause that person to do so.
Gurvi Ji: But why the 2nd house gives so
Guruji: We have gone through the houses. We have gone through all the houses, remember.
Gurvi Ji: Oh, yeah yeah, because that’s the breakage for the spouse.
Guruji: Right. 2nd spouse, 3rd spouse…. he always into trial and error, he/she is always looking for that perfect second spouse. It’s not his/her fault. That person is only searching it. See his/her mind, how his/her mind thinks. His/her mind says that “I am looking for that perfect spouse. I am unable to find my spouse. I am finding. I am searching”. Right?
Student: So, what is the difference between Moon in the 2nd house or the Moon in the 7th house.
Guruji: if it is in the 7th house, there is no limit. Then this person in this matter, is completely like the Moon God. He wants to bless the whole world with progeny, including plants and animals. Right? Chandra deva’s blessing, he wants to do that shower on the whole planet, Moon in 7th house. If Moon is in the 2nd house, he is just searching for that right spouse. It is a big difference. In the third house, the spouse will die early. Or, he/she will start earning very early, in younger age. One of the two will happen.
Because Moon is in 9th house from the 7th house of Navāṁśa chart. When Moon is in 9th house, it does many things early. But in any case, one thing is guaranteed, the person who has Moon in the third house, that person will live longer than the spouse. Why did I say this? Who can give me the reason?
Gurvi Ji: If spouse will die early, then obviously the native will longer than the spouse.
(everybody laughing)
Guruji: Ok. There is a thing that ajay was talking in the beginning, the pachakadi sambandha. The hint over here is in Pachakadi Sambandha. Note it. Please study pachakadi sambandha from? My narayan dasha book you know, in the last I have given appendix, all the references are given over there, please read it from there. The Moon destroys the house in the 12th from him.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Correct! what a thing you said. wow.
Gurvi Ji: native will also die. The spouse may start working very early.
Student: (not clear)
Guruji: Moon, when he goes into 9th house, it destroys the house that is in 12th from him. In whatever house, Moon goes, he destroys the house in 12th from him. Especially, if the kāraka of the bhāva that is in the 12th from Moon, is the enemy of Moon; then Moon will surely destroy that house that is in the 12th from him. Understand? This is the condition. Condition is that, the kāraka of that bhāva, should be enemy of Moon. Only that, and when that happens, Chandra will completely demolish the bhāva that is in 12th from him.
Student: But if Moon is in 5th, then 12th from Moon is the 4th house, whose kāraka is Moon himself.
Guruji: Then why will Moon destroy this house? Moon’s responsibility is to save this bhāva. For example if somebody have Moon in 5th house, it will not destroy the 4th house, it is the kāraka of the fourth house. he is selective. The mind is very selective. So, suppose Moon is in the 7th house, then Moon will completely destroy the 6th house. Moon and Maṅgala are the most dangerous in 7th house. Don’t fight with such a person who has Moon or Maṅgala in the 7th house. Moon or Maṅgala in the 7th house, in Rāśi, will completely destroy the 6th house. Maṅgala and Moon they destroy the 12th house from where they sit, completely; but depending upon their friendship, if the 12th house from that is not their karakatwa. For example, Maṅgala and Chandr, Śani is no friend of theirs, so, Śani is kāraka of 6th house. Similarly, Śani is kāraka of 8th house. If Maṅgala is in 9th house, the person may die early. Why? Because 12th house from Maṅgala is the 8th house, it’s the house of ayush (longevity), ayush is totally destroyed, Śani is the kāraka of that. understand? When Moon is in the 9th house, it can decrease aayu (longevity). So, what is the way out, especially if it is in the Navāṁśa, when it is in the third house, you can say, that the spouse could be short lived. If Mars is in the 3rd house, you can say, viklaang patni (handicapped wife, (or husband)). Means even if the spouse survives, some organ can go, 3rd house is very important, at least leg will go, one hand or one leg or something. 3rd house of Navāṁśa should be studied very carefully. 3rd house from lagna because it is 9th from 7th. Study Mars and Moon in this house, very carefully.
Student: You said that Moon destroys the 12th from itself, depending upon whether it is friend or enemy. But Moon has no enemy, so all
Guruji: All is based upon your tatkālika. It is not guaranteed that it will destroy. If Moon and Śani has good friendship, then why will Moon destroy that. Śani-Chandra yoga for example, is there in many people’s chart, then they are not as friendly. Depends, it has to be studied and you have to see the horoscope in totality. Never take this decision in a hurry. All depends on where the Moon is placed. Similarly, from Sūrya, the 6th house from Sūrya and Bṛhaspati, they will destroy completely. Sūrya and from Bṛhaspati. They will destroy.
Gurvi Ji: Who will destroy?
Guruji: Sūrya and Jupiter. They don’t like enemies.
Student: if it is the own house
Guruji: Then, if it is own house, why will it destroy that? There is nothing called own house, it is own sign.
Student: (if Venus is placed in 2nd in Navāṁśa, he will destroy the (…) completely..
Guruji: Yes, completely.
Student: 6th from sun and jupiter are also destroyed.
Guruji: 6th from sun and jupiter.. yes. Unless they are friendly to it.
Student: If Rāhu is there.. then Rāhu gets destroyed.
Guruji: That is good. That is definitely good. Why that will be bad. It’s good that Rāhu is destroyed. That means the person is more spiritual. If Rāhu and Ketu are getting destroyed, that means what is Rāhu, Rāhu is doubts inside the person, if doubt is getting destroyed, tamas is getting destroyed, that is GOOD. Planets are secondary, it is the bhāva which suffers really. When we say houses, primarily, it’s the bhāva that gets the hit. For example, Jupiter in the second house, it is not good for the 7th house. Why? Because here, 6th house from Jupiter is the 7th house. But here, what happens if 7th is the its own sign, then Jupiter will not destroyed that. Also, you have to take other factors into consideration. We just cannot…. read pachakadi sambandha in detail. Okay? 10 minutes left.. Questions?
Clear so far? You really have to study this. By the way, you asked Navāṁśa and marriage, so I taught Navāṁśa quiet a bit well. Marriage is a very deep thing. How can you catch it 100%? But you should be able to tell details about father-in-law, etc., without even knowing the person, it will fit in correctly. You can make each of these houses and lagna, and start studying it. Third house can be made as lagna of father in law and study. Normally, the best remedy is to propitiate the person indicated by the particular house. The person that is living, go and propitiate the person, that is very important. People now a days are very busy in pacifying Gods and forgetting human beings. Okay? Your fourth house has your mother, you ignore your mother start worshiping God. Don’to do that. Follow and do what Śaṅkarācārya said, “If your mother is alive, your mother is more important”. Similarly, 9th house, father and guru living are very important. People who are living, what can be a better indication than that? Okay.
Student: why is that the marana kāraka sthāna for Ketu?
Guruji: Who says so? 2nd house is the one. Mokṣa kāraka is asked to make a family and love with family. Sādhu is asked to make a family. he will suicide. 2nd house is considered marana kāraka of Ketu.
Student: why does pitṛ doṣa happen in anybody’s chart?
Guruji: It happens because in the previous life, you have not respected the pitṛ. When you have not respected the pitṛ, naturally, Karmic sambandha is created with the spouse or the children. A karmic sambandha is created in which some suffering you are destined to see because of that. So, it is better not to allow it. It can also be there, because your parents did not do it.
Students: how are we responsible for that. If our parents or grandparents did not do it.
Guruji: Exactly, that is what is d40 and d45. It is not question of “respnsible” but you will carry the burden. That’s why you are born over there.
Student: Could that also cause health problems.
Guruji: Yes, pitṛ-doṣa can cause health problems, definitely. First indication will be health-problems because the kāraka is Sūrya. Sūrya is the main thing. First is health. health will get damaged. First indication will be the health problems. Immediately, pitṛ-doṣa should be pacified. It requires nothing, you forget all the this and that; just start the Gāyatrī Mantra and Gāyatrī Havan. Immediately call two pandits, on Sunday to Sunday, do the Gāyatrī havan, and then see the results. Any house. I even say that there was a time, when people used to do the Gāyatrī havan regularly in their house, so all this was not needed. Why have the problem and then find the solution, why not do the Gāyatrī from day one and avoid it. If all of us in India, at least all of us in Delhi were to do the Gāyatrī mantra everyday, imagine. How fantastic it will be? But we don’to do it, that’s unfortunate.
Student: it is especially when A3 & A9 are in second house from Sun.
Guruji: Correct. Any ārūḍha in the 2nd, 6th, 8th and 12th from the Sun.
Student: No, I am asking about the pitṛ doṣa.
Guruji: There are so many other pitṛ doṣa, different types of pitṛ doṣa, sankranti doṣa is also pitṛ doṣa. That’s also a pitṛ doṣa.
Student: That means, any kind of affliction with the Sun
Guruji: That’s it, pitṛ doṣa. When you say, “curse of father”, what is it in reality? It is pitṛ-doṣa, what else. Why will your father curse you? Think quietly, why will your father curse you. No father of the world, curse his own children that easily. Very very rare. Normally does not happen. What does it mean? It means, pitṛ-doṣa is creeping in.
Student: If sun and Moon are together, is it a curse?
Guruji: No. Why should it be a curse?
Student: Then why is it called pitṛ-doṣa?
Guruji: for Sun and Moon together?
Student: yeah
Guruji: Who said that? Does it mean that every amavasya is a pitṛ-doṣa? No. It’s a tithi-doṣa, not a pitṛ-doṣa. Good questions.
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